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The Value of Life


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#1 AllStarZ

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 17:00

Is one life more valuable than the other?

People seem to think so.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 17:02

Yes. I´m sorry to break any romantic feelings, but simply and purely yes, one life might be worth more than another.
Now go out and procreate. IN THE NAME OF DOOM!

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 17:28

It atleast seems so. Not saying that it's ethically right, but yes, in our world, some people seem to be more worthy than others.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 17:37

Its always was like that and will be , I say yes.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 17:51

Yeah. But trying to equalize it will only lower the value of some, not raise the value of others.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 18:11

Apparently the lives of some are valued more than those of others. But I think it's wrong. No life is worth more than any other. And life as a whole doesn't really seem to have any value at all, other than to just propagate.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 18:18

^ my thoughts exactly. I can't think of much to add there.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 19:43

Yes, though the rating system seems to vary from person to person generally with those closest to you rated at the top.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 19:47

View PostCodeCat, on 29 Apr 2007, 18:11, said:

Apparently the lives of some are valued more than those of others. But I think it's wrong. No life is worth more than any other. And life as a whole doesn't really seem to have any value at all, other than to just propagate.
But can´t you derive the value of something from it´s usefullness?
Now go out and procreate. IN THE NAME OF DOOM!

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 19:50

Usefulness depends on who you're talking to. To me, plenty dead things are more useful than most living things I could mention. So that's a bit of a strange definition.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 20:03

And what use is a toaster-oven without the person to invent it. THus your value should go to his life, not the oven's.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 20:11

View PostCodeCat, on 29 Apr 2007, 19:50, said:

Usefulness depends on who you're talking to. To me, plenty dead things are more useful than most living things I could mention. So that's a bit of a strange definition.
Usefullness of one individual compared to another individual. I know that a Swiss army knife can be more usefull then a drunken dumbhead from times to times...
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 20:22

View PostLeatherneck, on 29 Apr 2007, 22:03, said:

And what use is a toaster-oven without the person to invent it. THus your value should go to his life, not the oven's.

The inventor doesn't make toast, his invention does. So practically, the invention is more useful to me. The fact that he invented it doesn't really matter, it's not like he's more useful after he already invented it. :D
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 20:30

Competent doctors compared to drunken dickhead-dicktators?
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 21:48

Life is life, all lie is the same. Its the person, but not the life that matters. All men are equal in death, and each death is worth no more than the other.

In life one person may be more important. In death it doesn't matter.

Edited by AllStarZ, 29 April 2007 - 21:49.


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Posted 29 April 2007 - 22:30

No life is worth more than any other. All individuals are equal before God and looked upon based on their actions alone.

I sure hope you all remember that.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:02

Equal under God, sure. But in the infinite time before death, there is a difference in importance.

For instance: My life is the most important thing to me, because without my life, I do not exist.

That is from a personal perspective.

Or: Joseph Stalin was much more important than Joseph Delio, Joseph Delio died of a heart attack at age 6, never making a difference in the world. Stalin, however, made a huge difference.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:14

However that does not make his life particularly more important, its the person.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:16

I agree STRONGLY with AllStarZ.

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#20 Whitey

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:17

All persons posess a life that they can twist and turn. So no, I disagree.

Well... define life.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:18

Yes, just because you have the power to do so doesn't make you more significant.

The only time that matters is when you stand before God and are being looked at ONLY for your sins and good deeds.

This life, as I said, is a test to determine our destiny. (What we make of it is our choice and our descision.)

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:22

If specimen A dies upon birth

and specimen B dies upon the murder of specimen C, is not specimen B more significant than specimen A? Is his life not more weighted?

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:22

View PostLeatherneck, on 29 Apr 2007, 19:17, said:

All persons posess a life that they can twist and turn. So no, I disagree.

Well... define life.

Existence.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:23

Does existence include what happens during it's passing?

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 23:33

View PostLeatherneck, on 29 Apr 2007, 23:22, said:

If specimen A dies upon birth

and specimen B dies upon the murder of specimen C, is not specimen B more significant than specimen A? Is his life not more weighted?


No. Neither are more significant. As I said, it is based on their actions alone. If they are a baby, though, when are are before God they will have neither good deeds nor sins, and will be admitted into heaven without question.



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