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#26 Rich19

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 13:15

View PostDr. Genrail, on 11 Jun 2010, 0:07, said:

OK... Because every-one is killing each other over "Gods" it is.

Ill make it my own make-believe god. Who IS omnipotent.

Would the question still be possible?


I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 06:09

hate to drop in , but why does a God have to be omnipotent.

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Posted 29 July 2010 - 07:39

This largely depends on how you define "God". If by god you include any polytheistic god then they can't be omnipotent as this trait doesn't make sense when one can limit another, whereas a monotheistic god is usually (not necessarily though) seen as omnipotent because otherwise he would be just a sufficiently advanced alien. Sure you could worship anything from a SAA to a cold burrito as god, but any "god" that isn't omnipotent could be overruled by another being - thus not being the "true" God in on itself but only a god because someone views it as such.
The capitalized God has some traits defined that require omnipotence though.

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1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind


View PostRich19, on 28 Jul 2010, 13:15, said:

I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.
God is creator of the universe, so by extend she is also the creator of the US mint, which also makes her the creator of every single valid $1 bill that exists.

Edited by Golan, 29 July 2010 - 07:46.

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View PostNergiZed, on 28 Jul 2010, 16:06, said:

Yes, time manipulation. I just want to see if there are any examples.

I'm using the term 'arrow of time' in a non-scientific sense meaning the direction of time.

Why do so many of us perceive time as a vector? It is in fact a non-decreasing (from our frame of reference) scalar quantity. You can't go back in time without being in another frame of reference.
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Posted 03 August 2010 - 17:05

View Postscope, on 3 Aug 2010, 14:16, said:

View PostNergiZed, on 28 Jul 2010, 16:06, said:

Yes, time manipulation. I just want to see if there are any examples.

I'm using the term 'arrow of time' in a non-scientific sense meaning the direction of time.

Why do so many of us perceive time as a vector? It is in fact a non-decreasing (from our frame of reference) scalar quantity. You can't go back in time without being in another frame of reference.
Physicists may argue with you on that point, mate :) .
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Posted 04 August 2010 - 13:50

Stop creating questions no human can answer .-.

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Posted 04 August 2010 - 18:12

Humans CAN answer it, there is just always an "if" you can postulate to reject any rational argument with :) .
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 12:05

View PostRich19, on 28 Jul 2010, 23:15, said:

View PostDr. Genrail, on 11 Jun 2010, 0:07, said:

OK... Because every-one is killing each other over "Gods" it is.

Ill make it my own make-believe god. Who IS omnipotent.

Would the question still be possible?


I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.

Isn't that like saying "Make an object which someone else made"? It's logically impossible in itself.

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Posted 05 August 2010 - 18:20

View PostRaiDK, on 5 Aug 2010, 14:05, said:

View PostRich19, on 28 Jul 2010, 23:15, said:

View PostDr. Genrail, on 11 Jun 2010, 0:07, said:

OK... Because every-one is killing each other over "Gods" it is.

Ill make it my own make-believe god. Who IS omnipotent.

Would the question still be possible?


I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.

Isn't that like saying "Make an object which someone else made"? It's logically impossible in itself.
Co-made by god? :)
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Posted 05 August 2010 - 22:11

Oh for Christs and Gods sake...

Will you people figure it out that with asking retarded questions you wont make a bloody point. The only thing you will managed to succeed is asking a retarded question.
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:26

View PostChyros, on 5 Aug 2010, 21:20, said:

View PostRaiDK, on 5 Aug 2010, 14:05, said:

View PostRich19, on 28 Jul 2010, 23:15, said:

View PostDr. Genrail, on 11 Jun 2010, 0:07, said:

OK... Because every-one is killing each other over "Gods" it is.

Ill make it my own make-believe god. Who IS omnipotent.

Would the question still be possible?


I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.

Isn't that like saying "Make an object which someone else made"? It's logically impossible in itself.
Co-made by god? :confused:

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:55

View PostRich19, on 28 Jul 2010, 23:15, said:

View PostDr. Genrail, on 11 Jun 2010, 0:07, said:

OK... Because every-one is killing each other over "Gods" it is.

Ill make it my own make-believe god. Who IS omnipotent.

Would the question still be possible?


I have a task for your God - to produce a valid $1 bill. Even if a perfect, atom-for-atom copy is made, the finished item is not a valid $1 bill because it was not produced by the US mint.


Then God gets arrested for counterfeiting.
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 09:59

Philosopher's Corner guys, it's gone a bit off the tracks so lets try to keep it a bit more serious please, thanks.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 01:35

View PostTehKiller, on 5 Aug 2010, 17:11, said:

Oh for Christs and Gods sake...

Will you people figure it out that with asking retarded questions you wont make a bloody point. The only thing you will managed to succeed is asking a retarded question.

I'd have to agree with this. Arguing the validity of something that is horribly broken such as religion is pretty much purposeless. It's going to be contradictory to itself any way you spin it.

Edited by Hobbesy, 13 August 2010 - 01:35.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:37

Yeah right, because as we ALL know, God is the absolute equivalent of Religion... :duh:

And that every single religion in existence is horribly broken... :xD:

Edited by Golan, 13 August 2010 - 07:37.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 13:41

View PostHobbesy, on 13 Aug 2010, 1:35, said:

View PostTehKiller, on 5 Aug 2010, 17:11, said:

Oh for Christs and Gods sake...

Will you people figure it out that with asking retarded questions you wont make a bloody point. The only thing you will managed to succeed is asking a retarded question.

I'd have to agree with this. Arguing the validity of something that is horribly broken such as religion is pretty much purposeless. It's going to be contradictory to itself any way you spin it.


I'd say your "point" is even worse than the "point" the question is supposed to make. Making childish questions to nitpick a religion wont make the discussion far, neither will the question prove the (in)validity of anything.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 20:22

View PostGolan, on 13 Aug 2010, 2:37, said:

And that every single religion in existence is horribly broken... :duh:

It's my opinion that every religion is flawed, as is religion in general. So yes, every single religion in existence is horribly broken.

Edited by Hobbesy, 13 August 2010 - 20:24.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:09

View PostHobbesy, on 13 Aug 2010, 20:22, said:

View PostGolan, on 13 Aug 2010, 2:37, said:

And that every single religion in existence is horribly broken... :duh:

It's my opinion that every religion is flawed, as is religion in general. So yes, every single religion in existence is horribly broken.

Well, obviously they aren't fully broken, as God does exist... in the form of yourself, seeing how your will determines reality.

Edited by Golan, 13 August 2010 - 21:09.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:10

It's my opinion that the American South is flawed, as is America in general. So yes, every single person in America is horribly broken.

Are you going to make a point or just write garbage?
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:19

View PostAlias, on 13 Aug 2010, 23:10, said:

It's my opinion that the American South is flawed, as is America in general. So yes, every single person in America is horribly broken.
LOOOOL :duh:

To be honest, the discussion is meaningless though, since by definition, religion can't be proven. If God were tangibly true, it would no longer be a faith, after all.
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:33

The discussion isn't about religion though...
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Posted 13 August 2010 - 21:43

View PostAlias, on 13 Aug 2010, 16:10, said:

It's my opinion that the American South is flawed, as is America in general. So yes, every single person in America is horribly broken.

Are you going to make a point or just write garbage?

With the logic I was using every country would be broken, not the people in them. :duh:

Edited by Hobbesy, 13 August 2010 - 21:45.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 23:06

View PostChyros, on 14 Aug 2010, 0:19, said:

If God were tangibly true, it would no longer be a faith, after all.

This is what people don't realize. Religion is a personal thing. I shouldn't be able to force my views upon you. You could worship a stick for all I care.
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:08

I agree with scope. Just stick to your thing and dont bother me, ill worship what I want and how I want. (and yes this message is also directed towards atheists who seem to be trying to fill my head that God doesnt exist)
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:16

View PostTehKiller, on 14 Aug 2010, 11:08, said:

I agree with scope. Just stick to your thing and dont bother me, ill worship what I want and how I want. (and yes this message is also directed towards atheists who seem to be trying to fill my head that God doesnt exist)

That certainly wouldn't happen if most religious persons weren't constantly trying to fill our heads that God exists...
I for one do not care about anyone's beliefs, as long as they're not acting like fundamentalists.

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