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[SquigPie]

For those of you who don't know. A young right-wing fanatic bombed the center of Oslo yesterday. the bombs themselves killed 7. Afterwards, he went out to Utøya, a small Island where the youth of a leftist party where holding a summercamp. He proceeded to open fire with a submachinegun, killing over 90 people before the police captured him.

I'm a little too disturbed to write anymore details. So if you want to know more, I suggest searching the net for information. Or turning on the news (they better have something on this).

Anyway, this is the thread for mourning this horrible incident.

Edited by SquigPie, 23 July 2011 - 15:29.

[Chyros]

An extremely sad event, and something you so wouldn't expect to happen in Norway, of all places. My thoughts go out to all those who lost a friend or family member due to this horrific event.

[TheDR]

Such a terrible thing to happen, I can't even begin to imagine the pain that one person will have caused. My best wishes and good luck to those who are affected by this tragedy.

[Stinger]

There is an aerial picture of the suspect and a victim in water holding up one of his/her hands, as if they were pleading with him... it's a moment forever frozen in time and burned in my memory. In all its graininess and lack of clarity, it is more vivid than anything that attempts to depict tragedy by recreation of an event. It is so raw.

My thoughts are truly with those whose lives he has destroyed.

Edited by Stinger, 23 July 2011 - 16:38.

[Sgt. Nuker]

One would have expected to hear this sort of thing coming from the Middle East, or thereabouts, but I guess in recent years, terrorist attacks are "branching out" as it were. Wherever it took place though, is a deplorable thing, and my thoughts and utmost sympathetic prayers go out to the surviving victims and to those who lost their life or a loved one.

[SquigPie]

Sgt. Nuker, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:35, said:

One would have expected to hear this sort of thing coming from the Middle East, or thereabouts, but I guess in recent years, terrorist attacks are "branching out" as it were. Wherever it took place though, is a deplorable thing, and my thoughts and utmost sympathetic prayers go out to the surviving victims and to those who lost their life or a loved one.

The odd thing is that it wasn't an islamist or anything, it was a right-wing conservative pureblooded Norwegian. They think his reasons might've been extreme nationalism and xenophobia. Which would explain why the attack targeted a left-winged party.

[Chyros]

SquigPie, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:52, said:

Sgt. Nuker, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:35, said:

One would have expected to hear this sort of thing coming from the Middle East, or thereabouts, but I guess in recent years, terrorist attacks are "branching out" as it were. Wherever it took place though, is a deplorable thing, and my thoughts and utmost sympathetic prayers go out to the surviving victims and to those who lost their life or a loved one.

The odd thing is that it wasn't an islamist or anything, it was a right-wing conservative pureblooded Norwegian. They think his reasons might've been extreme nationalism and xenophobia. Which would explain why the attack targeted a left-winged party.

Don't forget to leave out the Christian fundamentalist part that the Norwegian police use.

[SquigPie]

Chyros, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:08, said:

SquigPie, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:52, said:

Sgt. Nuker, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:35, said:

One would have expected to hear this sort of thing coming from the Middle East, or thereabouts, but I guess in recent years, terrorist attacks are "branching out" as it were. Wherever it took place though, is a deplorable thing, and my thoughts and utmost sympathetic prayers go out to the surviving victims and to those who lost their life or a loved one.

The odd thing is that it wasn't an islamist or anything, it was a right-wing conservative pureblooded Norwegian. They think his reasons might've been extreme nationalism and xenophobia. Which would explain why the attack targeted a left-winged party.

Don't forget to leave out the Christian fundamentalist part that the Norwegian police use.

Fuckers like this guy shouldn't even dare call themselves Christian...

Didn't know that was another possible motivation though.

[Chyros]

SquigPie, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:22, said:

Chyros, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:08, said:

SquigPie, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:52, said:

Sgt. Nuker, on 23 Jul 2011, 19:35, said:

One would have expected to hear this sort of thing coming from the Middle East, or thereabouts, but I guess in recent years, terrorist attacks are "branching out" as it were. Wherever it took place though, is a deplorable thing, and my thoughts and utmost sympathetic prayers go out to the surviving victims and to those who lost their life or a loved one.

The odd thing is that it wasn't an islamist or anything, it was a right-wing conservative pureblooded Norwegian. They think his reasons might've been extreme nationalism and xenophobia. Which would explain why the attack targeted a left-winged party.

Don't forget to leave out the Christian fundamentalist part that the Norwegian police use.

Fuckers like this guy shouldn't even dare call themselves Christian...

Didn't know that was another possible motivation though.

The information is based on his own profilations and the police's observations. He was, according to himself, trying to fight the islamisation of Norway and Europe.

Without trying to offend though, people killing people in the name of religion should not be news at all. Religion is in fact the oldest justification of killing in the history of humanity.

Yes, he's giving a lot of people a bad name. But with only very few exceptions, the more religious people get, the more intolerant, closed-minded and violent they become.

This is not to say that his motivations were entirely religious in nature though. Politics played at least as important a part.

[SquigPie]

Chyros, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:41, said:

Without trying to offend though, people killing people in the name of religion should not be news at all. Religion is in fact the oldest justification of killing in the history of humanity.

I'd say we killed for survival, food or simply for fun long before we killed for religion.

Chyros, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:41, said:

Yes, he's giving a lot of people a bad name. But with only very few exceptions, the more religious people get, the more intolerant, closed-minded and violent they become.

Depends on what you mean by "More Religious". I see myself as very religious, yet the nature of my religious opinion prevents me from being intolerant, violent and close-minded.

Chyros, on 23 Jul 2011, 20:41, said:

This is not to say that his motivations were entirely religious in nature though. Politics played at least as important a part.

Indeed

Edited by SquigPie, 23 July 2011 - 19:30.

[Sgt. Nuker]

The excuse of religion isn't a justification. It's more like a scapegoat to be honest.

[WarMenace]

Yeah I've heard of this as well. I don't know why exactly anyone would even attack Norway, it's not like they did anything. Sad story to hear, and my sympathy goes out to those effected.

Off topic: I heard that Amy Winehouse died today, though I have no idea who that is.

[Chyros]

WarMenace, on 24 Jul 2011, 0:29, said:

Yeah I've heard of this as well. I don't know why exactly anyone would even attack Norway, it's not like they did anything.

No-one "attacked Norway". Did you even read what happened?!

[WarMenace]

This is where I got it from: Here. Though I probably read it wrong, because I read it earlier that a Gihad group bombed them.

[Chyros]

WarMenace, on 24 Jul 2011, 2:28, said:

This is where I got it from: Here. Though I probably read it wrong, because I read it earlier that a Gihad group bombed them.

A right-wing christian went nuts because the country was too left-wing and islamist for him, so he started blowing up and shooting people. That's about it. It has nothing to do with jihads or muslims.

[Destiny]

So the topic title...?

[Ixonoclast]

Horrible thing that happened.

It's almost ironic how that guy turned to terrorism to fight "terrorism". Some people are leaking information about that guy right now. Seems to me, he's completely paranoid, talking about the marxistic leftist support of the Islam. It's like 1940 once again, except with muslims instead of jews.

At least this guy won't go to a normal Norwegian prison. That's for sure.

Edited by Ixonoclast, 24 July 2011 - 01:25.

[SquigPie]

Destiny, on 24 Jul 2011, 3:13, said:

So the topic title...?

What? Do you think only muslims can be terrorists? Seriously? What about IRA then? Or the RAF? This has nothing to do with islamists.

Ixonoclast, on 24 Jul 2011, 3:24, said:

Horrible thing that happened.
It's almost ironic how that guy turned to terrorism to fight "terrorism". Some people are leaking information about that guy right now. Seems to me, he's completely paranoid, talking about the marxistic leftist support of the Islam. It's like 1940 once again, except with muslims instead of jews.

At least this guy won't go to a normal Norwegian prison. That's for sure.

Hmm? He won't? There was alot of talk about it being stupid that he could only get 21 years (Norwegian law)

Edited by SquigPie, 24 July 2011 - 10:05.

[deltaepsilon]

Destiny, on 24 Jul 2011, 11:13, said:

So the topic title...?

Terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology.

[Alias]

SquigPie, on 24 Jul 2011, 19:46, said:

Hmm? He won't? There was alot of talk about it being stupid that he could only get 21 years (Norwegian law)

From what I've read, at least, it's maximum 21 years per crime. So he'll probably end up with a two-thousand year sentence, if that's right.
The other one I've read is they hold him for 21 years and deem if he is rehabilitated, if not they keep him in for another 21.

I could be completely wrong though, you know what sort of nonsense floats around the internet in times like this.

[Ghostrider]

It would take a severe lack of common sense for anyone to let this guy see the outside world again. I doubt very much that he will ever go free after killing almost 100 people.

I've tried to think about the mindset this man had to have in order to kill all of these people, but after thinking for a while I'm not sure any reasonable person could comprehend it.

Terrible news, poor Norwegians.

[Ion Cannon!]

This is nothing more than an act of evil, shooting teens/borderline teens as they plead for their life... I'm sure some idiots will argue he wasn't mentally in control or something, but by the sounds of it he very much was. He should be locked up forever in the worst conditions imaginable and even that will not make up for his disgusting acts.

My thoughts go out to the survivors and families of the victims.

[n5p29]

a mass murder in a remote island where a group of people had a vacation.
this scene is like typical mystery thriller story/movie, but damn, the shit got too real.
I couldn't think what kind of man have done all these things... alone.

[General]

Only positive side of this attack is I hope people start to understand terror is not about religions but about people who interpret religion to their own needs. Or any ideology on that matter.
They say he will only get 21 years in jail , is that the worth of 93 young people ?

[Ixonoclast]

21 years for one murder, I assume. Given the fact that he has killed 93 people... it's pretty certain he won't get out of prison. Ever.

That whole talk about him getting out after 21 years is misinformation. Or just anti-European prison system hate speak.