So, where's the Crusader?

Started By Razven, Jul 29 2007 21:37

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#1 Razven

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 21:37

I'm really sorry if it comes out kind of rude like I'm demanding stuff, but I actually did try my best and find it before I came here and I find that the simplest ways to get things done is to do a list:

1) I require a highdef/close up picture of a Crusader tank, preferablly with some sort of background so that it looks semi like a photo.

It will be used for a unoffical RL guide to a ZH unit, talking about unit size, engine and ground pressure..etc.

2)I already managed to make a line drawing of the said Crusader, it is crude and hastily done, I know. The chassis I have decided upon but I need help on the turret.

3) Don't have Photoshop, everything here is a result of MS Paint.

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#2 tank50us

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 19:06

you do realize that the Crusader is modeled on several tanks
Abrams - (prototype) turret
Leopard - Chassies
Crusader - Name
and a few others I can't put my finger on

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#3 ultra1437

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 03:39

i thought the US army had a tank called crusader that looked similar to this one. i thought it was based off the abrams and that tank alone.

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#4 Waris

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 05:25

TPAM: is it the M2008? From what I have known I was meant to be a replacement to the M19x (i forgot) Paladin SPH, I am not quite sure whether the project was cancelled.

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#5 DerKrieger

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 05:43

Waris, on 1 Aug 2007, 5:25, said:

TPAM: is it the M2008? From what I have known I was meant to be a replacement to the M19x (i forgot) Paladin SPH, I am not quite sure whether the project was cancelled.

That was a mobile artillery unit. The Crusader in Generals seems to be some sort of bastardized M1A2 or s.th.

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#6 Razven

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 09:19

I often see people saying it's an M1A2, but the chassis is not Abramish, neither is the turret and I fail to see the prototype turret somebody said about. So I'm currently reading Jane's guide to Tanks and Combat Vehicles Recognition Guide and the closest I could get is the Japanese Type 90 MBT, which upon a lot of thinking would be the closest it could get to a Crusader chassis, in fact, the Arjun MBT from India looks closer to a Crusader chassis than a Abrams.

Trust me, if it was the Leopard or the M1A2, I would've seen it since I've talked about it personally with quite some people.

Edited by People's Liberation Army, 01 August 2007 - 09:19.

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#7 tank50us

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 19:04

Janes Tanks and Combat Vehicles Recognition guide, good book, I should know, I have 2 (one I bought at the PX in Ft Benning during my 5 mounth visit, which the best days were PX Pass's, Weapons familierization, Grenade Day, and M16A4 Qualification, which I got 30/40 [sharpshooter to those who have not played Americas Army])

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#8 Razven

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Posted 01 August 2007 - 20:23

I play AA, which gave me great respect for the AK becuase it was the only gun that didn't jam on me when I'm shooting.

That aside, closest thing to a Crusader turret, name one.

Edited by People's Liberation Army, 01 August 2007 - 20:24.

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#9 Razven

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 20:23

Yah, me and Kid (big Kudos to him for putting up with me) basically came up with the Abram-ished M60 hybrided Crusader and decided that it looks close enough, but we're just two and I'm sure some of you know a lot more than we do, yah. We kinda need help here.

Picture of individual butchered abominations and a list of what part of the carcass we stole to make the Crusader.
We decided M60+Abrams+Type90 = Crusader as of now. New input will always help!

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#10 Axel of Sweden

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 20:36

Change the barrel, the Crusader does not have an 120mm L44

It got a fictional 125mm Gun

Edited by Axel of Sweden, 02 August 2007 - 20:37.

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#11 Jazzie Spurs

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 20:42

we are testing some barrels chassis and turret models so wait for the finish version

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#12 Razven

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 20:52

Axel of Sweden, on 3 Aug 2007, 4:36, said:

Change the barrel, the Crusader does not have an 120mm L44It got a fictional 125mm Gun

People's Liberation Army, on 5 Jul 2007, 22:08, said:

'The director and author of the article 'Strategia' stand by the facts given by the article. It is a common misconception that the Crusader would be mounted with a 125mm smoothbore cannon, but the idea was later rejected in favor of using a 105mm cannon due to the large amount of surplus tank rounds left for the 105mm cannon and lower maintenance costs.' The crew number given in the article is correct. BAE systems has confirmed that the electronics onboard include an autoloader, a fire control system and a guidance package that is similiar to those used in the F-16 fighter, reducing the needed crew to one.'-Response from 'Strategia', a American magazine about current warfare and related technology regarding a article recently published about the M3 CrusaderThere, happy?

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#13 Axel of Sweden

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 20:57

Use the abrams turret instead

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#14 Razven

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 21:05

We did, look.

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#15 Jazzie Spurs

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 21:08

People's Liberation Army, on 2 Aug 2007, 22:23, said:

Yah, me and Kid (big Kudos to him for putting up with me) basically came up with the Abram-ished M60 hybrided Crusader and decided that it looks close enough, but we're just two and I'm sure some of you know a lot more than we do, yah. We kinda need help here.

Picture of individual butchered abominations and a list of what part of the carcass we stole to make the Crusader.
We decided M60+Abrams+Type90 = Crusader as of now. New input will always help!

sometimes we must think in the thread than our post count

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#16 Razven

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 12:51

ANY input would be good, we seriously have no idea what we're doing and we kinda need some input our out butchered line drawings? Hunter? Chrizz? Bob? Soul? ANYONE!?

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#17 Jazzie Spurs

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 12:57

i see this in Chrizz's page
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looks like the M60

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