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mcbob, on 4 Jan 2009, 14:44, said:

The Helix-B has a slightly different nose shape (note that both Ka-31 and Ka-29 are classified as Helix-B; the Helix-A is Ka-27) which more accurately reflects the ZH version. Compare:
Helix-A:

Helix-B:

Hmm, I always thought the KA-27 was more suited to resemble the Helix. The Helix B looks more bulbous compared to the box-like ZH Helix.

Sorry for the necro, but it seems Boeing are getting closer to an AA laser avenger link.

Scope, on 27 Jan 2009, 0:12, said:

I saw that on Daily Planet I believe, but I was too lazy to look for info on the Internet and post it here .
Edited by Soul, 27 January 2009 - 11:29.

Turns out the FB-22 does exist, as a concept at least.

Linky.

Albeit a dead one. The F/B-22's strike and CAS role has since been pretty much filled by the F-35, and the 2018 bomber that might have also resulted from the design (even very unlikely as it was to do so) has also been scrapped, so it's virtually certain the F/B-22 will never come to fruition.

that avenger was sweet

CommanderJB, on 15 Feb 2009, 18:53, said:

I know, it was just interesting find I thought I'd share is all .

Speaking of the Avenger, the US Army mounted a laser ontop of a Stinger Avenger and used it to shoot down a UAV earlier. So technically, laser avengers are a somewhat reality now.

Scope, on 27 Jan 2009, 0:12, said:

See above.

Hm, didn't notice that before. Oh well.

Anyone want to debate or agree with my choice of what the Battlemaster is?

I have no objection, though it is probable that both versions are based on the Type 88 (Kwai's one having more obvious housecolor parts).

CommanderJB, on 15 Feb 2009, 23:53, said:

Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that the F-35 is suppose to be a multirole fighter and close-air-support aircraft meant to replace F-16s and A-10s, whereas FB-22 is proposed as a deep-strike fighter/tactical bomber like the “mothballed” F-111 / FB-111.

CommanderJB, on 15 Feb 2009, 23:53, said:

Are you sure that 2018 bomber is canceled? Quiet recently I saw an article that outlined USA airforce’s ambitions for the 2018 bomber (though it made no mention about FB-22).
Edited by Someone, 24 February 2009 - 02:37.

Someone, on 23 Feb 2009, 20:36, said:

You mean that one Popular Science article? Yeah, I saw that too.

Someone, on 24 Feb 2009, 13:36, said:

While the roles are not exactly the same, the F-35 is designed and built first and foremost as a battlefield strike aircraft (hence JSF after all). It's being marketed as a multi-role type and thanks to its stealth can perform as such quite well, but it's not a design with the emphasis on air-to-air you'd usually see in a multi-role type, with no supercruise and a paltry maximum missile load of four. You're also correct in that it is supposed to do CAS, mostly by way of the SDBs that are now becoming the backbone of the USA's air interdiction capability, and in an area usually off-limits to legacy aircraft (i.e. a high SAM threat zone, such as that posed by Voskya PVO during the late 80s), though when replacing A-10s it mostly relies on the EOTS system to make up for its shortcomings of an otherwise limited (internal) weapons capacity, lack of a heavy gun and higher top speed in this role, so yes, in A2G it's very much an F-16 equivalent/replacement. You're also quite right that F/B-22 is closer to F-111, but the fact of the matter is that the F-35 has very considerable range thanks to the internal payload, which can be acceptable if dedicated entirely to one role, mostly by virtue of the SDBs that are becoming the backbone of the US's battlefield interdiction capability. Moreover the F-35 can also self-escort, or at the very least needs no other aircraft types in a strike package (although loadouts should really be mixed within a package, with some A2G and some A2A Lighting IIs, as it can't do both very well thanks to the fact it has only 4 internal hardpoints), whereas I doubt an F/B-22 would have the F-35's already-only-middling close-in aerodynamic performance and/or distributed sensor system.
Put simply, the F/B-22 would have been a better choice for deep strike, but with a still-competent strategic aviation force, F-22s to clear the air threats and the B-2s to clear the ground threats, you shouldn't need an F/B-22 to do anything the F-35 can't, which is still exceptionally capable strike at a slightly shorter range and with a probable better self-defensive capability.

Someone, on 24 Feb 2009, 13:36, said:

It's cancelled as the '2018 bomber', though it's still on the drawing board for further away.

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http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htairfo/a...s/20090201.aspx
I suppose my main point is that the F/B-22 died stillborn for very good reasons. There just isn't the demand for it and won't be, with the F/22 covering SEAD/DEAD, the F-35 covering battlefield interdiction/moderate strike (with considerably more versatility) and the B-1B plugging any deep strike gap probably until the NGB finally arrives, at which point it'll probably be a UCAV.
While I haven't seen the article you're referring to, I would guess it's something along these lines:
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=395...c=AME&s=TOP
And while it's more recent than the other report, I think the main thing to take out of this one is this line:

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They can, but what with the current economy, funding situation and (in my opinion inevitable, and probably quite horrifying when they happen) F-35 program cost rises, I really can't see that they'll be given the cash to do it any time soon. And given delays usually trigger upward cost spirals of more delays and more costs, NGB is fully technically possible, but fiscally and politically unlikely for quite some time.
Edited by CommanderJB, 24 February 2009 - 08:46.

I think this one is as close to a Latrun. I guess.

wats it called?

Looks like a Pershing, though I think the KV-2 fitted better.

The new Warmaster I reckon now is most likely a heavily-upgraded T-72.
Edited by Moomin, 01 March 2009 - 05:35.

Warmaster seems like upgraded Battlemaster which is that chinese tank copied from T-55 (hint: count travelling wheels: T-34 5, T-55 5, T-72 6, T-90 6, T-95 7, Abrams 7, Challenger 6) and used to stop demonstration in 1989 (or when it was) in Peking.

And Latrun looks like Russian T-34 with 155mm cannon (it was in that "Wonders of tech" forum on Sleipnir's stuff).

EDIT:
T-34 Latrun 122mm
http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/viewtop...ghlight=wonders
Edited by partyzanpaulzy, 01 March 2009 - 15:41.

Papaya Master Rai, on 1 Mar 2009, 4:29, said:

IIRC this is the M24 Chaffee.

Nah, I think thats a M41 Walker or a M48.

I've been redirected here from a similar thread that I stupidly started without using the search function.

I have just a few answer:
-What's the RL version of the vanilla Mig?
-same for Leang's supply helicopter?
-same for Mig bomber?
-same for Razor Bomber?

sorry for the necro
Edited by Katmoda12, 02 April 2009 - 13:36.

V. Mig of China is Mig 1.44 MFI

the supply would be the MI-2, at least it seemed

Mig bomber is Mig-37 Ferret E, Creating Itareli

the Razor no idea

The Razor bomber is most likely based on this aircraft.

Last question from :

What's the RL counterpart of phoenix bomber?