Your Religion
Golan 15 Aug 2009
CodeCat, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:03, said:
Not at all. Given no evidence, gods aren't any more likely to exist than a teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But you don't see cults worshipping space teapots. The default assumption without any evidence is that something does not exist. If it weren't like that, I could say right now that there is a leprechaun hiding on the other side of Alpha Centauri and you'd have to believe me. Since that is absurd, so is any other reasoning about the existence of something for which no evidence exists.
Ixonoclast 15 Aug 2009
Turian, on 15 Aug 2009, 18:00, said:
I am curious about that subject so much, if religions are man's ( or woman's ) imagination and created with that way, I wonder who started it and how, we will probably never learn this but if I knew its created by a certain group of people and I see them in front of me, well... bad things gonna happen, very very bad things.
Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.
Golan, on 15 Aug 2009, 10:00, said:
Fun fact: the lack of evidence for her existence is a defining point of a truly transcendent God.
During medieval philosophy class we discussed a special school of monks who philosophised about a truly transcendant God. It's very... heavy shit. Blind, yet allseeing, Almighty, yet without power... Godlike, but also nothing...
The shining darkness.
Whitey 15 Aug 2009
Ixonoclast, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:14, said:
Turian, on 15 Aug 2009, 18:00, said:
I am curious about that subject so much, if religions are man's ( or woman's ) imagination and created with that way, I wonder who started it and how, we will probably never learn this but if I knew its created by a certain group of people and I see them in front of me, well... bad things gonna happen, very very bad things.
Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.
I can't see this as any form of proof as to how religion began. It might be a false proof of the belief itself, but in order to have such experiences and recognize them as 'divine' would first require that a belief in 'divinity' itself exists.
General 16 Aug 2009
Boidy, on 15 Aug 2009, 23:18, said:
Ixonoclast, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:14, said:
Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.
I can't see this as any form of proof as to how religion began. It might be a false proof of the belief itself, but in order to have such experiences and recognize them as 'divine' would first require that a belief in 'divinity' itself exists.
Yes, thats still no explanation, seeing some kind of weird waves and hallucination stuff can't make you to say : Oh look, I found it, there is a God and spirits, lets worship them that way... I think this can't be explained with psychedelic mushrooms.
SquigPie 16 Aug 2009
E-713 Aegis 18 Aug 2009
I grab alot of stuff from Wicca and all that, but I worship the old Egyptian Gods.