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[CJ]

Five years in prison for killing a dog? Dude, justice sure is messed up in the west...

[Alias]

How is 5 years messed up?

[CJ]

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

[deltaepsilon]

I think in Australia you can get a lighter sentence for murder or rape than if you killed an animal.

[Chyros]

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And this is a very good example to why I'm an atheist

I wouldn't want to bring this into connection with Christianity in general mate .

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

Edited by Chyros, 26 January 2011 - 10:51.

[CJ]

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

[Wizard]

In the UK you get a tougher sentance for corporate fraud or embezzlement than murder or rape. If you harm animals, you just get a video on YouTube

[CJ]

Well in Italy there was a guy who left his cat on the balcony for a few hours because he was pissing him off. He got fined 500€ to compensate for the "emotional damage the cat suffered"

[Alias]

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 21:56, said:

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

No crime is worth the death penalty, but that's for another thread.

Admittedly sometimes things can get to far but they are the exceptions. Do remember this woman hung the dog and then lit it on fire, she didn't just leave it outside.

[CJ]

Alias, on 26 Jan 2011, 12:07, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 21:56, said:

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

No crime is worth the death penalty, but that's for another thread.

Admittedly sometimes things can get to far but they are the exceptions. Do remember this woman hung the dog and then lit it on fire, she didn't just leave it outside.

Agreed, she must be deranged but that doesn't justify 5 years in prison...

[SquigPie]

Sgt. Rho, on 26 Jan 2011, 10:06, said:

And this is a very good example to why I'm sane

Phix'd

[Ghostrider]

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 7:19, said:

Alias, on 26 Jan 2011, 12:07, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 21:56, said:

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

No crime is worth the death penalty, but that's for another thread.

Admittedly sometimes things can get to far but they are the exceptions. Do remember this woman hung the dog and then lit it on fire, she didn't just leave it outside.

Agreed, she must be deranged but that doesn't justify 5 years in prison...

Yes, having a 65 year-old dog-burning nutjob wandering around sacrificing pets for the next 5 years is a great idea!

[SquigPie]

Ghostrider, on 26 Jan 2011, 18:31, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 7:19, said:

Alias, on 26 Jan 2011, 12:07, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 21:56, said:

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

No crime is worth the death penalty, but that's for another thread.

Admittedly sometimes things can get to far but they are the exceptions. Do remember this woman hung the dog and then lit it on fire, she didn't just leave it outside.

Agreed, she must be deranged but that doesn't justify 5 years in prison...

Yes, having a 65 year-old dog-burning nutjob wandering around sacrificing pets for the next 5 years is a great idea!

Indeed.
Fewer dogs=More Cats
Cats=Awesome

[CJ]

Ghostrider, on 26 Jan 2011, 18:31, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 7:19, said:

Alias, on 26 Jan 2011, 12:07, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 21:56, said:

Chyros, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:51, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 11:26, said:

Because you get less than that for stealing! Also a dog's life should not be worth anything, you don't get condemned for killing a sheep now do you? The whole thing of suing people for animal cruelty is bullshit.

That's just because you are from a country where killing dogs and other animals is considered the most normal thing in the world . In the west, this is not the case.

You certainly meant : "That's because you come from a country where the justice is actually doing it's job."
At least rapists and pedophiles get death penalty here, that proves that justice is suing the right persons instead of caring about some stupid old hag complaining that someone verbally assaulted her dog...

No crime is worth the death penalty, but that's for another thread.

Admittedly sometimes things can get to far but they are the exceptions. Do remember this woman hung the dog and then lit it on fire, she didn't just leave it outside.

Agreed, she must be deranged but that doesn't justify 5 years in prison...

Yes, having a 65 year-old dog-burning nutjob wandering around sacrificing pets for the next 5 years is a great idea!

What I meant is that they'd better send her to an asylum or something than in prison if she's crazy.

[BeefJeRKy]

Someone who did something horrible like that to a dog could potentially do it to a human being. She certainly deserves the sentence.

[Wizard]

Scope, on 26 Jan 2011, 18:40, said:

Someone who did something horrible like that to a dog could potentially do it to a human being. She certainly deserves the sentence.

Someone who does anything because "God told them so" should be locked up.

[BeefJeRKy]

Wizard, on 26 Jan 2011, 23:42, said:

Scope, on 26 Jan 2011, 18:40, said:

Someone who did something horrible like that to a dog could potentially do it to a human being. She certainly deserves the sentence.

Someone who does anything because "God told them so" should be locked up.

Even if they saved someone's life?
One shouldn't confuse faith with fanaticism. There are SOME good religious people. They tend to get lost among the nutjobs though. But that's for another thread.

[SquigPie]

Scope, on 26 Jan 2011, 23:12, said:

Wizard, on 26 Jan 2011, 23:42, said:

Scope, on 26 Jan 2011, 18:40, said:

Someone who did something horrible like that to a dog could potentially do it to a human being. She certainly deserves the sentence.

Someone who does anything because "God told them so" should be locked up.

Even if they saved someone's life?
One shouldn't confuse faith with fanaticism. There are SOME good religious people. They tend to get lost among the nutjobs though. But that's for another thread.

The most vocal minority sadly drown the majority of us. And many of the fanatiscists are good pople, crazy yes, but so am I, so who am I to speak?

[Sgt. Rho]

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 10:26, said:

[...]Also a dog's life should not be worth anything[...][/color]

Wait, what? Did I read that right, a dog's life should not be worth anything? Then yours, mine, that of every other person shouldn't be worth anything either. Every single life on Earth has a immense value. That includes the life of a dog, and even that of a rat. Call me a tree-huger, but killing anything that isn't about to kill you is just plain wrong.

Edited by Sgt. Rho, 27 January 2011 - 08:20.

[CJ]

Sgt. Rho, on 27 Jan 2011, 9:18, said:

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 10:26, said:

[...]Also a dog's life should not be worth anything[...][/color]

Wait, what? Did I read that right, a dog's life should not be worth anything? Then yours, mine, that of every other person shouldn't be worth anything either. Every single life on Earth has a immense value. That includes the life of a dog, and even that of a rat. Call me a tree-huger, but killing anything that isn't about to kill you is just plain wrong.

You're vegan, right?

[Sgt. Rho]

No, I merely respect every kind of life, until it disrespects me.

[CJ]

Sorry if I'm insisting on the vegetarian part, but I find it actually intriguing... I mean, it all comes to the same, doesn't it? If you respect every kind of life and don't want to kill anything which isn't about to kill you then you can't possibly eat the meat of animals who did nothing to you, now can you?
And actually I respect your belief, but for the record you should know that I barely give any value to a human's life as well.

[Sgt. Rho]

I should have written "all aspects of life" rather than "all kinds of life". I respect every living thing in its entirety, that includes the human aspect of being a hunter-gatherer. Putting weight on "hunter". I can't change that humans need both meat and 'green' for the body to function in its entirety, I do not approve of eating meat as main diet, because it's unnecessary, and unhealthy at the same time.

[Chyros]

CJ, on 26 Jan 2011, 10:26, said:

[...]Also a dog's life should not be worth anything[...]

CJ, have you ever had a pet dog?

Edited by Chyros, 27 January 2011 - 09:11.

[Alias]

Or a pet of any sort, for that matter.