Peace
#1
Posted 07 July 2007 - 06:07
Whats your opinion?
#2
Posted 07 July 2007 - 06:17
but that doesn´t keep it from having it as goal...
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#3
Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:04
Today, we learned from our faults and most of us realised that war is not the way to solve most problems. This part of mankind does live in peace, but then again, it doesn't: There is peace within the borders of that one country but in other parts of the world, the very same country is fighting.
Edited by Rayburn, 07 July 2007 - 07:07.
#4
Posted 07 July 2007 - 07:40
#5
Posted 07 July 2007 - 08:09
Blaat85, on 7 Jul 2007, 3:40, said:
No offense, but do you honestly believe that? We humans are by nature power-hungry, greedy and vicious. Even the purest of people will get greedy when given dominance over others. It's a proven fact. Peace is NOT possible no matter what peple say. We will always be fighting, always be killing. While there are some who might not want to fight, they would still give in to the seductive calls of power. Even moderating this board counts. Everything.
I guess I'm just misanthrope, but getting along wise, we will never manage, we need to kill each other. It's an instinct. And it will never die. Peace is but a fantasy for any species on earth. And fantasys don't come true. It would be nice to have peace, but it's impossible. Pure and simple. Also, peace has it's side affects:
-Over-population = War serves a purpose. It keeps us from over-populating, which leads me to my next point.
-Running out of food = Goes hand in hand with over-population. You can't grow food fast enough to feed something THAT numerous. We would starve.
-Tyranny = If we were at peace, we would probably get rid of our weapons. What if a crazed madman built an army? What would we do? We wouldn't be able to do anything. We'd be sheep waiting for the slaughter.
#6
Posted 07 July 2007 - 09:47
Corruption is also a big problem.
@Nightshadow
I don't fully agree with your statement that a peaceful world would always have to create overpopulation. In the next few decades western countries will be diminishing their population because the raise of wellfare and the women emancipation makes having children less important. This means that there will be more racial diversity among the world, which encourages peace imho. If the entire world was to be as civilized as say, western europe or the states, then overpopulation would not rise if it wasn't already there.
But that will never happen because we are too far off. There's already too much people on this little planet and it's been calculated we'd need fifteen similar planets if every world citizen would life a life like most of us do. This get's me to the point that war is inevitable. The world will have to face another world war, i m sure of it. If nature doesn't take care of our overpopulation, then we will ourselves.
#7
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:09
#8
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:27
#9
Posted 07 July 2007 - 10:30
Shirou, on 7 Jul 2007, 5:47, said:
I don't fully agree with your statement that a peaceful world would always have to create overpopulation. In the next few decades western countries will be diminishing their population because the raise of wellfare and the women emancipation makes having children less important. This means that there will be more racial diversity among the world, which encourages peace imho. If the entire world was to be as civilized as say, western europe or the states, then overpopulation would not rise if it wasn't already there.
But that will never happen because we are too far off. There's already too much people on this little planet and it's been calculated we'd need fifteen similar planets if every world citizen would life a life like most of us do. This get's me to the point that war is inevitable. The world will have to face another world war, i m sure of it. If nature doesn't take care of our overpopulation, then we will ourselves.
If we didn't have frequent cullings to keep the population in check, we would only grow. And eventually we would over-populate. The countries of China, India and I think Japan and parts of Korea are all over-populated. We need to have wars or else there would be too many humans to feed. And we would die out. I would rather have wars and conflict instead of the whole race starving and dying. I don't feel like going the way of the Dodo.
#11
Posted 07 July 2007 - 11:48
#12
Posted 07 July 2007 - 16:52
#13
Posted 07 July 2007 - 16:57
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#14
Posted 07 July 2007 - 16:58
Why should we? We´d have more than enough problems to face in time of peace, perhaps even worse than those encountered in times of war... as many of you said, I may add.
Edited by Golan, 07 July 2007 - 16:58.
#15
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:03
@ Codecat: Advancements develope quickly out of conflict, be it armed or economic. And while we may advance under peace, it won't be at nearly the current rate. War has its benefits as does peace, and we need to find a common balance...
#16
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:05
(Although this may be exagerateing, its preaty close)
We've wanted peace for as long as humans have been around...And yet we havnt acheived it yet? Extremists take things too seriously and usualy ruin it for everyone...Think of a kid at school...the one that "acts out" the rest of your class will obey the teacher, while he says stuff like F-Off, and your whole class suffers...and you have one in almost every class
Thats what we have in the world, that will most likely never go away, the only way to get rid of extremists...is well....unspeakable. So I Beileve Peace is a good thing, but an out of reach thing, allthough it does keep us friendlier with each other, we all need something to beileve in.
Edited by Short Stuff, 08 July 2007 - 13:22.
#17
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:16
δαίμο&#, on 7 Jul 2007, 17:03, said:
Humanity has by now shown to be most innovative when facing imminentproblems in war time. Peace holds such problems as well though, even more pressing ones, so we should just aswell be forced to be innovative and advance technologically.
Edited by Golan, 07 July 2007 - 17:17.
#18
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:26
Edited by δαίμονας, 07 July 2007 - 17:27.
#19
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:38
CodeCat, on 7 Jul 2007, 12:57, said:
Some people have, and I'd put money on that. Fact is though, you almost never hear about that happening. It's human nature to want to be better than someone else, to strive for the top. There's no denying it. Your ideologies mean well, and they are true, but snap back to reality with me for just a moment. Look around you. A competitive world is what we live in. Do you know how much it would take to change it? Yes, I know all it takes is one, but finding that one person who would find another, who finds another.....etc, etc.....you get my point. Fact of the matter is, for the word to change, and I mean completely change from the cut-throat, get-a-step-ahead-and-stay-there,I'm-better-than-all-of-you world, to the peace-loving, idealistic society people can only dream about will take nothing short of a miracle to happen.
Regards,
Nuker
#20
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:39
Because the number of people beeing killed by their own kind is much less. Because war can easily annihilate our whole species. Because it´s a waste of ressources spending our lifes killing each other instead of advancing. Because war is much more unpredictable. And so on...
Edited by Golan, 07 July 2007 - 17:40.
#21
Posted 07 July 2007 - 17:44
Edited by δαίμονας, 07 July 2007 - 17:45.
#22
Posted 07 July 2007 - 18:16
#23
Posted 07 July 2007 - 18:38
Insomniac!, on 16 Sep 2008, 20:12, said:
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#24
Posted 07 July 2007 - 19:56
Nightshadow, on 7 Jul 2007, 19:16, said:
Instead of trying to find better and easier ways to kill each other , humanity should have find a solution to food and water now , but what happen is happen , there is no turning back and nothing will prevent the humanity to destroy their own world with their selfishness .
#25
Posted 07 July 2007 - 20:46
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