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[Whitey]

Now I have a pre-release-ish (not sure if it's different) copy of Vista: Ultimate. It has never posed me a problem until now...

After drooling over DX10 pictures, I went to microsoft to download the update. It installed and all and yeah. But I have no way to verify that it installed properly except my one DX10 game... World in Conflict. When I run the game, I try to enable DX10 Rendering features but... it won't let me. So I figure that DX10 did not install properly. I restarted, reinstalled DX10 as best I could (it said it was up to date :\) and then restarted again and still no luck.

So if anyone could manually supply me the DX10 files and tell me where to plop them, that would be great... Thanks.

[fjsgdfsdjgbsgkjfg]

what build number is your vista the current is RTM build 6000 or probably that just means that you need a fully capable DX10 card

[Whitey]

God dammit you're right.

"DirectX® 9 & OpenGL 2.0"

*cries and cuts self* I rescind this topic if a moderator could please lock it... what a jip... :-(
*searches for a newr than current new graphics card on ebay*

Edited by δαίμονας, 19 July 2007 - 03:30.

[Overdose]

Now is not a good time to buy video cards IMO. You should wait until DX10 becomes more common.

[PhenomFX]

If you have Geforce FX upwards to Geforce 7950GTX your card DOES NOT support DX10 by any means, only if you got Geforce 8 series or Radeon HD2600XT, however even though that the 8800GTX is a beast at DX9 games, currently it barely can handle DX10 games even world in coflict DX10 mode is unplayable with it, if you got DX9 card you have nothing to do in Vista, it offers decrease performance compared to xp, and there is no good DX10 game\card right now, stick with what you got.

[Nexolate]

Agreed. Plus, the HD2k-Series is completely out-performed by the nVidia 8-Series.
Like Overdose said, wait 'till it comes more common and when they have capable DX10 Cards.

[Prophet of the Pimps]

what ever you do stay away from ATi. their DX10 cards have been shitty.

[Eddy01741]

Ati has been shitty ever since their X1800 line. Nvidia is the way to go, if you want decent DX10, get the 8600GTS.

[PhenomFX]

NO WAY!!! Geforce 8600GTS is NOT decent performer and the X1950PRO much better than it and costs lower, there is no reason to buy DX10 cards they barely can perform under current DX10 games, when crysis will come out we will see how will they perform and based on that you may buy new card, if you want something good and strong the X1950XT is the way to go.

[Whitey]

I have some Radeon Stealth X1550 and it is surprisingly good for what it does. But it doesn't do DX10, and from what I hear, I'll probably switch over to an nVidia DX10 card once they become more streamlined...

[PhenomFX]

That won't happen for long time, remember the history of Geforce FX it couldn't do DX9 with high FPS unlike the mighty Radeon 9800XT, we have to wait until DX10 will be fully optimized by the game makers, with that in mind and optimize game for 64bit+Dual core advantage can make all look different.

[Eddy01741]

PhenomFX, on 19 Jul 2007, 13:18, said:

NO WAY!!! Geforce 8600GTS is NOT decent performer and the X1950PRO much better than it and costs lower, there is no reason to buy DX10 cards they barely can perform under current DX10 games, when crysis will come out we will see how will they perform and based on that you may buy new card, if you want something good and strong the X1950XT is the way to go.

Eh, i guess you didn' read DX10 at all....

Anyways, their performance is neigh the same (yes, I have proof), and the 8600GTS is 30 bucks more than the X1950Pro. ALso, I wasn't reccomending the 8600 cuz it was "decent" but because it has the capability to go DX10, that's all (and that's what the topic starter asked).

Anyways, please, don't fcking refer to the FX series, that was 2-3 generations ago (depends on how you look at life lol jkjk, but depends on how you count generations). Anyways, the HD2900 series arn't doing so well either, eh?

Anyways, if you reall yneed to go DX10 (which you shouldn't since there are very little DX10 games), the only viable option for NOW is the nvidia 8-series, if I wer you, I'd stick it out till a year later or so when moore DX10 games and video cards come (that's what I"m doing and i'm using an old Ati X800XL).

[Whitey]

Alright, fine, let me move the direction of the topic... what would be the thing to change to see the most noticeable improvement on game performance?

Graphics: ATI Radeon X1550 Stealth
Processor: Pentium D 2.8GHz
Memory: 1022MB
Operating System: Windows Vista: Ultimate

Now don't even say downgrade to XP because I am on the lookout for some DX10 goodness...

[Eddy01741]

Uh, unfortunately, probably the processor, it'll help your gaming performance and normal performance. May I suggest one of the Core 2 duo models? The only problem is that you most likely have to get a new mobo, only the 965 and 975 chipsets support core2duo from intel north bridges (and those are the better ones). It all depends on you, what do you want, better overall performance or just in games.

[Whitey]

My non-game performance is excellent. My game performance? Not so much... So the latter.

[Eddy01741]

I was afraid you would say that, what games do you play and intend to play?

[PhenomFX]

DX10 should provide same performance of DX9 with higher level of detail, but right now it's not like that and the 8600GTS can play DX9 games at high detail but with demanding games it performance will be way too reduced, i don't suggest getting any other card rather than 8800GTS.

to the guy with:
"
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1550 Stealth
Processor: Pentium D 2.8GHz
Memory: 1022MB
Operating System: Windows Vista: Ultimate"

your first mistake is not to downgrade to XP, you have 1GB for Vista which leaves you with 400MB left for games, not enough, drivers for Vista not optimized, you must have 4GB at Vista to achieve the same level of xp gaming that done by 2GB.
Secondly, you got a very old and outdated CPU the Pentium D and very weak(you could get AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400 at those times?), however your video card is not good by any means, it's low end if you improve it the first place you see a great FPS boost at games and you can play games on High level of detail, but exchanging the cpu to C2D or AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600 will benefit you much more in future, oh yeah and adding another 1 GB to system is a must have.

Edited by PhenomFX, 19 July 2007 - 22:01.

[Prophet of the Pimps]

processor is not the bottle neck here. its the ram. probably get another 1GB stick and you will be set.

Seriously when it comes to gaming you are better off getting a cheaper processor and a kick ass graphics card rather then the opposite way around.

[narboza22]

That's not necessarily true. Some games, like flight sims bottle neck at the CPU rather than the GPU.

[Whitey]

Battlefield 2 and World in Conflict are my primary targets for running on high right now. I'll see about getting a 2nd gig of RAM though, because now I hear from a couple other techies that I really ought to have one.

[PhenomFX]

First getting 2 GB is most have this days, secondly your CPU is average -- but that would be good- for games, but what really screw u is ur graphic card, it's a low end one and barely manage to run games, if you can grab 8800GTS one day, that will run BF2\2142 on high+Filters and World in conflict.
Want to be more sure? wait for 14 Sep 2007 to see how well different graphic cards runs the game.