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[Amdrial]

In any way, I know that in Christianity God made the world.

But does anyone have an idea who made God? Was it himself, who was first only thought, and later materialised, is he even made of material? Is he thought? What actually is God?

[Crazykenny]

God is everything. God is made out of believe. If you don't believe in something then there is no God.

[Golan]

The concept of God as the creator of existence and blabla doesn´t make any sense when he himself would have to be created as well - as then, the "real" god would be what created him (and would then again have to face the same question and so on and so... it hurts my head just thinking about it).

Both religion and science have to assume that there is something that exists without being created, otherwise they both end up in a vicious circle.

Edited by Golan, 22 October 2007 - 17:27.

[Crazykenny]

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Both religion and science have to assume that there is something that exists without being created, otherwise they both end up in a vicious circle.

That pretty much sums it up.

[General Kirkov]

 Crazykenny, on 22 Oct 2007, 12:47, said:

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Both religion and science have to assume that there is something that exists without being created, otherwise they both end up in a vicious circle.

That pretty much sums it up.

You can deduce and argue the existance of a pre-existing God by pointing out that the universe resulted in an explosion of densly packed matter. Where did the matter come from? Was it just there? Possibly, then logicaly God may have just come to exist or has always existed.

[Golan]

Of God may exist without a creator, the universe/existence may as well.

Edited by Golan, 22 October 2007 - 19:52.

[Whitey]

What if they created each other?

[AllStarZ]

So they're like inbred?

Ew.

[Hobbesy]

Why don't you actually read the Christian Holy Book before you ask this.

[Alie]

Then there'd be no point in discussing this.

[General]

In my belief God created everything but He not have a beginning nor an end.
We only can say ''maybe'' and have some theories about it :
I have a few one :

Maybe all the planets ,stars and such is His cells.
Maybe he is the universe's itself but not as I stated above but in spiritual way.
Maybe He is outer than our universe
Maybe our universe all connected to Him and all others if there , such as we use computer LAN connection.

But I do think Gods which old peoples believe mostly an alien race. But there is one true God which interest all of us doesn't matter you worship to a rat.

[Crush3r]

Well, if God is the multiverse system itself, then he wouldn't be called God anymore. Anyway, I don' believe in a divine entity.

And, unless an infinite amount of time passed since matter was created, we must assume that it existed without being created by anything.

[nova]

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universe resulted in an explosion of densly packed matter. Where did the matter come from?

read the membrane theroy of the unierse it will explain all even how other universes are formed

and he probly came from another universe and created this one like who we can creat life

p.s i belive in a mixture of science and relegoin because you have to under stand both to get one if you get what i mean

Edited by nova, 23 October 2007 - 18:47.

[Ellipsis]

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p.s i belive in a mixture of science and relegoin because you have to under stand both to get one if you get what i mean

Exactly.

[IPS]

yea me too I don't belive in Christianity or the Christian god but there have to be s.th. out there,
or can anyone tell me where life come from?

[Ellipsis]

God.

[Hobbesy]

 ailestrike, on 22 Oct 2007, 21:26, said:

Then there'd be no point in discussing this.

What is the point to discussing it? Senseless bickering?

[Alie]

insight. theres no fact to be learned, only theory's.

Edited by ailestrike, 23 October 2007 - 21:49.

[Crush3r]

I think many people choose to believe something god-like, because we're so used with such a concept.

[Alie]

never mind.

Edited by ailestrike, 23 October 2007 - 22:09.

[Ellipsis]

Ya. People can pick and choose what to and not to believe. It's called free will. But what you do with your free will is up to you.

[Pandut]

I dont believe in ''God'' or any sort of holy crap, I believe in evolution.

[AllStarZ]

I believe you are all absurd figments of my imagination.

[Alie]

 Pandut, on 23 Oct 2007, 20:18, said:

I dont believe in ''God'' or any sort of holy crap, I believe in evolution.

This isn't the topic for that. Just because you don't believe in god, doesn't mean you can't at least try to put yourself in a theist's position. Also, you would do well to watch your tongue.

[AllStarZ]

 ailestrike, on 23 Oct 2007, 20:44, said:

 Pandut, on 23 Oct 2007, 20:18, said:

I dont believe in ''God'' or any sort of holy crap, I believe in evolution.

This isn't the topic for that. Just because you don't believe in god, doesn't mean you can't at least try to put yourself in a theist's position. Also, you would do well to watch your tongue.

Actually it does relate to the topic depending on which way you look it, but discretion is advisable. People are especially touchy on this subject, and its pointless to discuss it with anyone anyways. So I just don't let people take me seriously.