35 replies to this topic

[SolidSpartan117]

I agree, you have millions of choices in life and each one dedicates a different path, your DNA is who you are and nothing more

[Crush3r]

But free will is only apparent, because the Universe is scripted, as everything happens according to a pattern dictated by the laws of physics. Free will does seem to exist to us because we need to accumulate an infinite amount of data to predict exactly what is going to happen.

Besides that, our life is determined by a combination of genetics („the INI”) and environment („random code”).

[Chyros]

Crush3r, on 3 Mar 2008, 21:10, said:

But free will is only apparent, because the Universe is scripted, as everything happens according to a pattern dictated by the laws of physics.

Does not correspond to chaos theory .

[Crush3r]

Yes it does, chaos is just a very complicated order, so you get little or no repetitive patterns :stickattack3: .

[Dr. Strangelove]

Crush3r, on 3 Mar 2008, 21:10, said:

But free will is only apparent, because the Universe is scripted, as everything happens according to a pattern dictated by the laws of physics. Free will does seem to exist to us because we need to accumulate an infinite amount of data to predict exactly what is going to happen.

Besides that, our life is determined by a combination of genetics („the INI”) and environment („random code”).

If you haven't realized, Quantum theory-and thus half of modern physics-states that there is only a set probability or wave function, and that God infact does play dice.

[Cryptkeeper]

theres also one thing your forgetting psychics its self is not perfect and doesn't take in to account human choose which is neither instinct nor pure logic a mixture of both making it very difficult for you to even say its scripted

quite frankly even if there is so much data thats its hard to tell its scripted the scripts them selves are are being so in since we are are own free will

[Dr. Strangelove]

Reality doesn't change on someone's whim.

[Cryptkeeper]

what kind of reality which you speak of becuase there more then one part of reality including the reality which you your self and you are free to change yourself not psychical make up but your state of mind.

Edited by cryptkeeper, 04 March 2008 - 06:31.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Fair enough, but you still can't make the stars arrange themselves' in an epic portrait of Teh Hunter just because you want them to.Well maybe it is possible.

[Cryptkeeper]

lol true not with force of will but given enough tech anything could be possible but yes we aren't all powerful gods of any sort

Edited by cryptkeeper, 04 March 2008 - 06:40.

[Penguin_Pyromaniac]

Fate is based on your decisions, but your decisions are also based on DNA. If you are born athletic, then you will be more likely to enter into athletics. If you are born with a third arm, you will obviously not have a normal life.
It's not heavily connected, but it does influence what happens to you. And to confuse things, DNA is also based on fate. You can still rebel against your DNA and genetics, (e.g. the movie Gattica) but it will always have an influence.

Of course, certain traits, like birthmarks and hair color really don't matter.