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#1 Thunderstruck

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 05:26

Well, in my last topic, I asked for people to join my mod. I was told to present sufficient evidence of progress. I am here now to give you that progress. All I really need now are texture artists/skinners. Keep looking.


As world oil prices were steadily rising, which they had been doing since oil use had become ever more widespread, Gazprom started to exploit the hard-to-extract oil deposits in Siberia. However, the Arabian oil-exporting nations responded by lowering the price increase, leaving Gazprom with highly expensive state-of-the-art oil wells and refineries all across Siberia, that remained inactive due to the fact that no-one would buy the expensive Russian oil.
In 2015, the Russian ultra-nationalists gained power, under President Stoyanovich. Determined to make Russia stronger than ever before, he instituted a series of sweeping reforms designed to benefit the Russian economy - but there was still one problem. The near-abandoned Gazprom facilities in Siberia were very expensive, and were slowing down economic growth.
In 2017, a shady, never-before-seen terrorist group ignited over three quarters of all Arabian oil wells. The group was suspected to be funded - and maybe even founded - by the Russians, in a bid to secure the position of the world's primary exporter of oil. The bid succeeded; even though Canada was exploiting its oil sand deposits, Russia's oil production skyrocketed as Gazprom's Siberian facilities were put to use. Within two years, Russia was exporting 65% of the world's oil, and producing almost 80%.
Meanwhile, China had become reliant on OPEC to quench the ever increasing demand for oil. Since China accounted for roughly 45% of OPEC's total exports, a price agreement was in place - China could buy their oil at 80% of the regular world price, provided they only used OPEC oil. When the terrorist organisation burned the Arabian oil wells however, OPEC simply could not produce enough oil anymore to supply China, and the price agreement was unilaterally cancelled. Recognising the need for immediate funding to rebuild what facilities they could, OPEC demanded that China paid back the difference between their special price and that of the rest of the world, retroactive to the beginning of the agreement. China was infuriated, but was unable to take any action. Between the time of the terrorist attacks and the rapid increase in Russian exports, Chinese oil reserves ran out almost completely, and the economy lay in ruin.
However, technological progress had not slowed down in the Western world. After ITER succeeded in 2011, and TFFR, the world's first tokamak built specifically as a power reactor, was completed in 2016, Europe began to wean itself off of its oil addiction. The United States was, due to restrictive economic and scientific policies, slower in embracing this new technology, but they did see its potential for profit. In 2021, the world's first lunar colony was founded - and it was made for profit. Extracting helium-3, a crucial component for fusion reactors, rare on Earth but ubiquitous on the Moon, it was responsible for providing the European reactors with 80% of their fuel.
In 2019, China tried to purchase the oil they needed from Russia, but Gazprom did not produce enough oil to supply both the United States and China at the same time. China attempted to outbid the United States with what little financial resources they had left, but the US could easily afford a price raise due to the enormous revenues that the lunar helium-3 facilities generated. China did manage to outbid most other nations importing Russian oil however, and gained a significant fraction of the remaining Russian oil exports. Also, a secret agreement was made, that whenever China could afford it, their share of the exports would increase, since China had managed to secure barely a third of the oil they needed. The economic decline was slowing, but rapid growth was out of the question.
Still, OPEC pushed for China to pay back what it owed. Figuring that they had the mighty nation over a barrel, the OPEC nations seized Chinese-owned businesses and facilities in Arabia and sold it all off "as the start of Chinese debt payments". Three days later, the Chinese managed to secure their supply of Russian oil. Infuriated by the insults levelled against them and seeking to gain control of Arabian oil wells to supply what Russia could not, Chinese military forces, fuelled by Russian oil, invaded OPEC nations in Arabia. Recognising a golden opportunity, Iran called upon the Arabian nations to form a unified front against the Chinese, under Iranian leadership. Using guerilla tactics and modernised equipment procured from the US during the Iran-Iraq and Soviet-Afghan Wars, the OPEC nations, under increasingly close leadership of Iran, ground the Chinese offensive to a halt in late 2020, and even managed to drive the Chinese back in some places.
Russia closely monitored the war in Arabia, since they knew that even with the Arabian oil wells China would still need to buy Russian oil to keep their economy going. When the tide of the offensive turned, increasingly loud calls were made for intervention on the side of the Chinese, to prevent OPEC, now commonly called merely Iran due to their near-annexation of almost all of Arabia, from building up their oil production facilities again and becoming a powerful competitor for Russia on the world oil market again. A large part of the burned oil wells proved to be still exploitable with the right equipment, and geosurvey satellites indicated several large untapped oil fields just waiting to be exploited. In 2021, the Russian attack began. The Russians hoped to prevent these new reserves from finding their way onto the world oil market, and despite China's intention of exploiting them for their own use, the Russians secretly intended to take as many oil wells as possible for themselves and destroy as many as possible of those they could not take.
In return for the promise of a special price arrangement, the United States sent help to Iran in 2022. Outdated equipment, modernised somewhat, and specialist trainers were sent to bolster the Iranian forces against the Sino-Russian onslaught. This didn't help much initially; although the Iranians inflicted more losses on the Asian Allies than before, and the guerilla strikes were slightly more effective, the Allied advance continued, though slightly slower.
In 2024, a more liberal US Government abolished the old restrictive laws and regulations and began building fusion reactors all over the country. Oil imports were steadily reduced, and idle talk was made of exporting the new technology all over the world. Meanwhile, however, the Russian economy was booming, primarily due to Gazprom and its Siberian facilities, which in total earned almost 40% of Russia's GDP. However, the European fusion reactors had posed a threat to Russia's economy from the start, and now that the United States were also embracing the new technology and apparently intended to spread it all over the world, President Stoyanovich foresaw a terrible scenario - Russia would lose the US as an oil customer, accounting for more than 45% of the Russian exports, and find less and less buyers for the rest of their oil, economic growth would slow and eventually reverse, and Russia would be plunged into a deep financial crisis as the ruble, affectionately called the "oil dollar" by now, devalued to merely a fraction of what it was now.
In the winter of 2027, President Stoyanovich and his government spent a total of three weeks in debate in the Kremlin. In the end, there was only one recourse: war.
A quick decisive strike through the weak states of Eastern Europe would overwhelm Germany, the economic and military centre of Europe, and effectively negate European dominance. Almost all scientists and engineers who had worked on the fusion projects would fall into Russian hands, and Russia would control fusion technology all over the world. Even if Gazprom would flounder anyway, the Russian economy would be secure, and Russia would truly be more powerful than ever before. The United States wouldn't be able to spread fusion technology effectively, and Russia would be able to acquire American helium-3 on their own terms, because there was no-one else to buy the product of what had become one of the most flourishing industries in America.
There was just one problem, however, though President Stoyanovich wasn't aware of this. One of his cabinet members, Alexandr Ublyedkov, had invested heavily in European and American fusion power. If the President's plan were to succeed, he would be ruined financially, and his foreign investments would likely be construed as treason by the ultra-nationalists. Ublyedkov made sure parts of the plan reached the Germans through less-than-official channels - enough to make the Germans aware of the rough outline of the Russian plan, though not enough to imply espionage - so that the Germans would have the time and opportunity to prepare and resist the Russian attack. Ublyedkov's plan was perfect, in his eyes; the Russian attack would succeed, but more slowly, and morale in the military and the home front would drop. The Americans would threaten to retaliate, and Russian forces would be retreated. His investment would be saved.
However, he fatally underestimated both the Germans and his own ultra-nationalists. The Germans inferred what was going on from the pieces of the attack plan they received, and extrapolated the rest. This proved a remarkably accurate prediction, as the Russians did exactly what the Germans expected, and the Russian advance faltered in eastern Germany and was pushed back into Poland at some places. Meanwhile, a small group of ultra-nationalist Russians, acting alone, plotted to strike at the US' strategic strike capability. They had been operating in the US since 2018, preparing for years. A week after the Russian attack ground to a halt, they simultaneously detonated several dozen bombs, ranging from small dynamite assemblies to, in one case, a minivan half full with C4, all across the United States, destroying what was left of the American strategic nuclear strike capability, as well as severing a number of oil pipelines and toppling one of the launch towers in Cape Canaveral.
Ublyedkov saw the signs on the wall, and shot himself in the mouth moments before Internal Security Service agents kicked down the door of his dacha to arrest him. The Russo-German front was stable for the moment, but the continuous stream of Russian reinforcements pressed the Germans harder and harder. That is, until the American forces arrived. Early in 2029 the first wave of American reinforcements arrived in Europe, and attacked the Russian line at a weak point in the Czech Republic. American reinforcements increased steadily, and hopes for a quick, decisive Russian victory diminished. However, President Stoyanovich had gambled everything on this, and failure now would mean ruin within months. He had to keep pushing, and hope something would eventually give way.
Though the Russians were diverting forces from Arabia to reinforce the European front, the Chinese had managed to secure a large number of oilfields, and were at full military strength. The Chinese advance picked up speed, and the situation looked grim for Iran. Then, in an unexpected move, the United States sent a small force of their own to Arabia, and more than quintupled their deliveries of old equipment. Though the Iranians were more concerned with the immediate Chinese threat, the American force moved north and began attacking the Russian front, largely on their own with little Iranian help. The Russians were now in a precarious position; if the balance in the European meatgrinder tipped to the Coalition side, enemy troops would be able to advance far into conquered territory and maybe even into Russia itself; though there were enough troops present to pose a serious obstacle to the Coalition advance, they would still be able to reach Moscow within weeks. However, the Russians could not just divert more forces from Arabia to Europe; the front was already buckling, and if the American forces broke through, they would be able to march into Russia's poorly defended underbelly without much resistance.
Deciding that the Russian front was more important, President Stoyanovich decided to make a bold move, a one-shot attempt to avoid destruction. Bolstering the modern navy with re-activated Cold War ships that had been rusting in their docks and loaned Chinese ships put temporarily under Russian command, the Russians attempted to sever American supply lines to Europe. Since the Russian navy was, all combined, the largest in the world now, they managed to sever American convoy routes to Europe - but Great Britain struck back. Supporting the Germans since the beginning, the British Royal Navy and Royal Air Force now struck at the Sino-Russian navy in the North Atlantic. Fearing an American attack through the Pacific, the Chinese ships were recalled, and despite still being larger than the Royal Navy, the Russian position was much weaker. Almost half of the Russian fleet consisted of outdated, even ancient materiel, and the British managed to gain air superiority right before the Chinese ships left. In a last desperate move, an elite Russian strike force, consisting of 6000 men, 300 vehicles and 120 tanks, invaded Great Britain in three equal parts; one near Edinburgh, one in Donegal, north of Northern Ireland, and one, in a bold move, up the Thames and into London itself.
Taking the British by surprise, the Russian forces quickly managed to secure beachheads in Scotland and Ireland and dug in, while heavy urban warfare continued in the streets of London. Taking advantage of the withdrawal of British air forces to attack the beachheads, the Russians launched airstrikes and performed naval bombardments on several key Royal Navy and Royal Air Force bases, severely damaging the British counterattack capabilities. The Russians now had naval superiority in the North Atlantic, and the Americans felt uneasy about engaging an enemy that, despite being weaker, was still capable of inflicting serious losses to the fleet. The American reinforcements to Great Britain and Europe slowed to a trickle, and instead American forces concentrated on the Arabian Front. The Russians were now winning the war in Europe, but soon had to withdraw some of their forces to reinforce the faltering Arabian offensive.
The front in Europe again ground to a halt. German forces were equally matched to the Russians, and German military production was in full gear and rising. The Russian beachheads on the British Isles were being pounded from land and air, and London was being devastated by close quarters warfare. The Iranians, using a massive amount of outdated American equipment, were fighting a prolonged seesaw war with China, and a growing American force forced the Russians on the defensive, up into the Caucasus and Kazakhstan. Both sides, the Asian Alliance and the Coalition, seemed equally matched, and a worldwide stalemate was developing. Which side was winning became more unclear by the day. It could go either way now; which way will however not be decided by grand force manoeuvres and large-scale battles, but small, tactical skirmishes at strategically important location. Strength of arms doesn't matter anymore - the brains of military commanders will decide this conflict.

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CHINA UNITLIST

Infantry:
Trooper:
Soldier armed with assault rifle.

Grenadier Team:
Heavy weapons team carrying a multiple shot grenade launcher for use against all targets.

ATGM Team:
Heavy weapons team carrying a powerful, slow-firing, long-ranged ATGM.

Anti-Air Trooper:
Soldier armed with short-range MANPAD AA missile launcher.

Special Services:
Elite soldier armed with sniper rifle and explosive charges. Stealthed while standing still.

Chemical Corps:
Soldier in NBC-proof suit armed with a flamethrower. Can burn away NBC contamination.



Vehicles:
Mobile Drilling Rig:
Drills for oil and brings it back to base.

XinXing:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zfb05.asp
Light, fast scout vehicle armed with heavy machine gun. Somewhat low speed when compared to other scout vehicles, but better armour and a more powerful anti-infantry weapon. Primary light anti-inf vehicle for China.

FAV:
http://www.sinodefen...ansport/fav.asp
Cannot be built, only available through special power (possibly) and World Builder, for scenarios. Fast, poorly armoured vehicle with a light machine gun and two/three transport slots.

EQ Truck:
http://www.sinodefen...t/eq1093f6d.asp
Light truck, may be able to carry supplies and/or troops. Possibly only available through WB, for scenarios.

North-Benz Truck:
http://www.sinodefen...ort/nd2629a.asp
Heavy truck, similar to EQ Truck.

Type 90/MBT2000:
http://www.sinodefen...tank/type90.asp
Light tank. Cheap and fast.

ZSD89:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zsd89.asp
APC. Armed with a heavy machine gun. Carries a number of soldiers.

ZDF89:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zdf89.asp
ZSD89 can be upgraded, on a per-unit basis, to this version. Loses the MG, gains ATGM launcher. Does not lose transport slots. Makes it capable of engaging light vehicles effectively.

WZ550:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/wz550.asp
Lightly armoured vehicle armed with a long-range medium ATGM.

PTL02:
http://www.sinodefen...llery/ptl02.asp
Light, fast assault gun, good vs. heavy infantry and light vehicles.

Type 89 Howitzer:
http://www.sinodefen...e89sp_122mm.asp
Light field artillery. Decent speed, shorter range than most artillery. Weaker vs. buildings. Best used vs. unit blobs.

HQ7:
http://www.sinodefen...missile/hq7.asp
Light mobile SAM. Well-armoured, decent range, slightly weak attack.

Post-tech:
Type 115:
Heavy main battle tank. Slower than other MBTs and heavily armoured. Gun is weaker than that of other MBTs, however.

ZSL92:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zsl92.asp
Troop carrier, moves faster than the ZSD89 but has less armour. 30mm gun is weaker against inf but stronger against light vehicles than the ZSD89's MG.

Type 89:
http://www.sinodefen...e89at_120mm.asp
Slightly slower than the WZ550, shorter range, better armour, more powerful gun.

ZJX93:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zjx93.asp
Armoured Recovery Vehicle. Performs field repairs on vehicles.

Type 70 Howitzer:
http://www.sinodefen...e70sp_122mm.asp
Armoured heavy artillery. Medium range (for arty), low RoF/accuracy, quite powerful.

SH1 Howitzer:
http://www.sinodefen...tillery/sh1.asp
Poorly armoured long-range artillery. Slightly weak shell, but more powerful than the Type 89's. Needs time to deploy. Used to shell heavily defended positions from afar.

ZBD97:
http://www.sinodefen...rmour/zbd97.asp
Amphibious IFV. Armed with an autocannon and can be upgraded to gain a light ATGM. Carries a small amount of troops.

ZBD2000:
http://www.sinodefen...our/zbd2000.asp
Amphibious light tank. Similar gun to the MBT2000.

PGZ95:
http://www.sinodefen...craft/pgz95.asp
Armoured anti-aircraft vehicle. Fires rapidly. High power. Also powerful vs. infantry. Short range.

HQ-61:
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/surfacetoa...ssile/hq61a.asp
Mobile SAM. Long range, decent power. Poorly armoured.

Type 135:
Advanced heavy combat support vehicle. Big. Articulated into two pieces. Front end armed with intermediate-range (longer than tanks, lower than artillery) heavy mortar-howitzer firing heavy HE shells in a flat arc, rear section has many troop slots for infantry transport. Cannon is weaker against tanks than some specific post-tech anti-tank weapons, but is powerful vs. light vehicles, infantry and buildings, and despite being slightly inaccurate it has very good AoE.



Aircraft:
JF-17:
http://www.sinodefen...fighter/fc1.asp
Lightweight multirole fighter. Good speed, low armour. Armed with four multirole missiles.

JH-7:
http://www.sinodefen...dattack/jh7.asp
Fighter-bomber. Armed with two multirole missiles and four bombs.

J-8II:
http://www.sinodefen...ighter/j8ii.asp
Fighter. Armed with six air-to-air missiles.

Z-11:
http://www.sinodefen...icopter/z11.asp
Medium support helicopter. Good speed, medium armour. Carries a few soldiers. Can be upgraded to be armed with 4 light ATGMs.

Post-tech:
J-11:
http://www.sinodefen...fighter/j11.asp
Advanced fighter. High speed. Armed with eight powerful air-to-air missiles. Slightly sub-par armour.

Q-5:
http://www.sinodefen...ndattack/q5.asp
Ground attack fighter armed with two anti-tank missiles and six bombs. Somewhat low speed, high armour.

J-10:
http://www.sinodefen...fighter/j10.asp
Advanced multirole fighter. Medium speed, decent armour. Armed with six heavy multirole missiles.

Z-15:
http://www.sinodefen...icopter/z15.asp
Medium transport helicopter, faster than the Z-11 and carries more troops. Unarmed.

Mi-6:
http://www.sinodefen...icopter/mi6.asp
Heavy lift helicopter, carries one vehicle or a large number of soldiers. Slow and heavily armoured.

Gazelle:
http://www.sinodefen...opter/sa342.asp
Fast, lightly armoured attack helicopter armed with an HMG and two light ATGMs. Basically an armed scout.

Z-10:
http://www.sinodefen...icopter/z10.asp
Advanced heavy attack helicopter armed with a powerful heavy autocannon and eight medium ATGMs.

H-6:
http://www.sinodefen...ndattack/h6.asp
Level bomber. Drops a straight line of bombs over the target. Can be upgraded to a carpet bomber, dropping a dense bomb carpet over a wide area.



Buildings:
PLA Field Command:
Central command station. Builds Mobile Drilling Rigs.

Oil Power Plant:
Power generator. Small, but provides little power. Ignites in a violent, short-lived fire when destroyed. Stores a little Oil.

Oil Depot:
Oil storage facility similar to Oil Tanks and such but larger, can unload oil. China has cheap depots, but expensive harvesters.

PLA Facility:
Trains infantry and builds light vehicles, and possibly helicopters. Can repair vehicles.

Field Air Station:
Builds light fighters and (light) helicopters. (Pre-tech only, except possibly for helos.)

Logistics Centre:
Teching Structure! Possibly builds trucks, calls in certain special powers and can have inf squads and light vehicles air-delivered to the Centre itself.

Nuclear Power Plant:
Big nuclear power station, causes a meltdown when destroyed, triggering a small explosion that kills anything up to light tanks within a short distance of the Nuclear Plant and contaminates the area with radiation. (Possibly destruction by superweapon triggers a catastrophic nuclear explosion.)

Heavy Factory:
Builds heavy vehicles, and possibly helicopters. Can repair vehicles.

Air Base:
Builds all aircraft and (possibly) helicopters.

Field Strategic Air Command:
Calls in advanced special powers.

Second Artillery Corps Command Post:
Superweapon. Calls in a strategic missile saturation barrage. Tactical Nuclear Warheads upgrade in the Nuclear Power Plant adds a DF-31 missile at the end of the barrage, armed with a low-yield nuclear warhead that contaminates a fairly large area.



Defences:
ATGM Installation:
Small, armoured position with two long-range ATGM launchers. Powerful, but low RoF. Can garrison two to four soldiers, who can fire out.

Field Camp:
Medium-sized "defence" building that trains and heals infantry. A guard tower on every corner, with an HMG in each. Can garrison 8-12 soldiers, who can fire out.

AA Gun:
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/antiaircra...90towed35mm.asp
Light AA trailer gun. Short range, low power, cheap.

Post-tech:
Anti-Tank Gun Position:
Armoured bunker housing a fixed heavy anti-tank cannon. Long range.

Mortar Pit:
ATGM Installation-like bunker armed with three long-range mortars.

SAM:
http://www.sinodefen...missile/hq2.asp
Long-range surface-to-air missile launcher. Low armour. Very powerful missile, long reload time.

ABM Installation:
http://www.sinodefence.com/strategic/missi...siledefence.asp
Large launch facility for a powerful anti-ballistic missile that can intercept (certain) enemy superweapons. Unlimited range, so is launched as soon as SW is. Reload timer is longer than that of any SW however. Missile can be set to manual or auto launch.




Now, unfortunately, that is all I can/want to post right now. If you want more tho, just ask. We have been hard at work, well not really, but still. Just ask, and you SHALL receive. Thank you.
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#2 Waris

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:16

Now those are what we call real progress. :pnd:

Your proposition looks solid so far.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:25

And i say thank you Waris!

Can I do anything for you guys? Do ya want more? Name it, and i will do it, except for skins. We are working on them, but only have one skinner...

Edited by Carnage18, 17 June 2008 - 06:37.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:48

Great work there, like I said before, you should had done this from the beginning :pnd:

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:50

Wow. I am honored a visit by Comrade? That is cool by me. And I thank everyone who views and comments here. Hopefully I can find a texture artist/skinner soon.
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:53

Much better than before, at least you're actually showing content instead of "here's a single model I made, want to join?".

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 06:54

Thank you too, Alias.

Also, here is a link to the MODDB page...http://www.moddb.com/mods/11081/cold-war-conflict-war-of-the-future

Edited by Carnage18, 17 June 2008 - 07:10.

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 08:11

Good work on the models so far. If those wouldnt spark the curiousity of skinners that I dunno what will :O
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 09:52

Nice backstory. That's heavily plausible and deeply involving and interesting. Do you plan to create missions based on parts of the story, e.g. fights in London, Kuwait, Germany etc.?

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Posted 17 June 2008 - 11:16

Wait, am I that skinner, or are there two now?
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Posted 17 June 2008 - 17:00

Nah swimmer. You are not THAT skinner. I am trying to get a couple more tho... Then it should be good enough. So, does anyone here require any more evidence of work? Does anyone here demand more? I can/will show it gladly.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:07

Loving the models. Too lazy to read the looong post. Will do later.

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 10:09

congrats
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 11:01

Post the Type 135 next :P

 CommanderJB, on 17 Jun 2008, 11:52, said:

Nice backstory. That's heavily plausible and deeply involving and interesting.


Thanks :wtf: There might be some changes, as right now China is only fighting Iran and America in Arabia, and the only time any significant Chinese forces are present in or near Europe is during the Battle of the Atlantic. I may include a special Chinese detachment to help the Russians fight the Germans and British on mainland Europe.

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Do you plan to create missions based on parts of the story, e.g. fights in London, Kuwait, Germany etc.?


Hopefully, yeah, if we can find mappers willing to do it. I'm a big fan of urban warfare (I'm hoping to make it a proper, viable strategy in ZHU as well, as opposed to the "whoever gets the Dragon Tank there first takes the village" of vZH and most mods, it's somewhat less so in CnC3 but still not truly realistic), which is why I included heavy fighting in the streets of London, I do really hope that someone is willing to make a good mission out of that :cry:

Edited by Strategia Inc., 20 June 2008 - 11:05.


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Posted 20 June 2008 - 18:35

A campaign? Most definitely. I even have someone ( Lord Atlantis) attempting to create the very first mission. He is just getting the layout of the map, but when he has the proper stuff, we will start it. Yes, skinners are very much needed and will be appreciated. The sooner we can have a skinner or 2 the sooner I can show you all some sexy units. and as too strategia's request of showing the China Type 135, which is an uber-heavy unit, I shall post that pic.

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If there is anything else, please say so, and I will take care of eet.

And yes, the tank needs a bit more work. The barrel looks weak, and the top side of the front end is bland. I will do it after i reduce the poly a bit. It truly is beautiful.


And besides a couple skinners, if you would like to model in this mod, some of the teams would appreciate this. This whole big team thing is not too bad, in fact it works very well. I have put more time into organizing this mod than anything. And if you want to model, or can code well for CnC3, please say so and we may ask for you to join. Please have a look at the mods site, even tho it is only like 85% done...

http://games.blacksh...warofthefuture/

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 20:06

Holy mother of god... that thing is freaking huge =O
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 20:18

 Carnage18, on 17 Jun 2008, 18:00, said:

Nah swimmer. You are not THAT skinner. I am trying to get a couple more tho... Then it should be good enough. So, does anyone here require any more evidence of work? Does anyone here demand more? I can/will show it gladly.

I was not involved in that little farce earlier and boy am I glad I wasn't. Some lovely stuff here Carnage!

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 21:36

Any person want to be a skinner? You will not be required to work too hard. just take your time and use good detail. If ya had a model skinned every 3-4 weeks, that is still progress. Let me know.
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#19 Ion Cannon!

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 22:36

Sweet, that China type 135 is almost as insane as my old destructor cannon - AKA Planet Destroyer.
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 22:55

This looks really neat :read: I can't wait to see the fished result. Good work D:D
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Posted 20 June 2008 - 23:02

Well thank you everyone. It has honestly been mine, and my teams pleasure!
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#22 Strategia

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Posted 20 June 2008 - 23:53

 Crazykenny, on 20 Jun 2008, 22:06, said:

Holy mother of god... that thing is freaking huge =O


 Ion Cannon!, on 21 Jun 2008, 0:36, said:

Sweet, that China type 135 is almost as insane as my old destructor cannon - AKA Planet Destroyer.


It was fun thinking it up D:D I wanted to give China a super-heavy unit somewhat along the lines of the Overlord, but different, and suddenly the entire idea for the Type 135 just popped into my head. A bigass troop carrier capable of transporting dozens of soldiers, linked to a bigass flat-arc mortar-howitzer tank just sounded too awesome not to use..... :read:

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Posted 21 June 2008 - 17:42

Yes no doubt it was fun to think up, but for me, it was even more fun to model. I thought it would be rather difficult to make, but hey, it was simple, and although it could hold a bit more detail, I did good on it even though it took me like 45 minutes or an hour to make...
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