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[Brad]

Tactical_person, on 24 Dec 2008, 17:56, said:

It celebrates The christian religion's messiah's birth.
But that isnt saying he was borin on the 25th either.

In fact much evidence suggests springtime being the time where jesus was born, and the pagans just moved the hoiliday to fit in with their calender
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This topic can also used to disscuss the commercialization of christmas.
Many christians believe the commercialization of christmas is sacreligeous, as the original intent of christmas is to celebrate jesus' birth. Not anything else.

Discuss . (I wanna see people's answers first before i get going )

[Chyros]

Christmas itself is a heathen ritual actually, and everyone who celebrates it and/or buys a Christmas tree will go to hell for all eternity for idolatry. The commercialisation of it has turned it into into something even more different from the original happening.

[CodeCat]

Chyros is right. The feast of Christmas in the English-speaking world as we know it today is based on the old Germanic mid-winter celebrations, known as Yule. I did some (mostly linguistic) research into Yule and found that it's actually a plural form (as it still is in Icelandic today), presumably of a word originally meaning 'celebration' or 'feast'. So Yule was most likely not one feast, but a string of celebrations all held around the winter solstice.

[TehKiller]

Bah when u see atheists celebrate the birth of Jesus u kno somethings really wrong...

[Dauth]

TehKiller, on 24 Dec 2008, 20:06, said:

Bah when u see atheists celebrate the birth of Jesus u kno somethings really wrong...

What about those of us who take the time off (as granted by bank holidays) to see family?

[Chyros]

Dauth, on 24 Dec 2008, 22:13, said:

TehKiller, on 24 Dec 2008, 20:06, said:

Bah when u see atheists celebrate the birth of Jesus u kno somethings really wrong...

What about those of us who take the time off (as granted by bank holidays) to see family?

And have a great time in general?

I promise you as an atheist, I don't even consider the birth of Jesus on Christmas. And, as I stated, if I were religious, I would actually NOT celebrate it .

[TehKiller]

Dauth, on 24 Dec 2008, 21:13, said:

TehKiller, on 24 Dec 2008, 20:06, said:

Bah when u see atheists celebrate the birth of Jesus u kno somethings really wrong...

What about those of us who take the time off (as granted by bank holidays) to see family?

Uhhh how about calling it Holyday Break instead of Christmas?

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I promise you as an atheist, I don't even consider the birth of Jesus on Christmas.

Christmas = Christ's birth

Basically even though you dont even think of it you are still celebrating his birth...

Sadly Christmas lost its original meaning in this era where people just look how to eat drink each moment they can and make profit every way they can.

[Warbz]

I just see Christmas as a way of seeing family and having a break from work or school. Of course the presents help.

[CodeCat]

Christmas hasn't lost its meaning. It just has different meanings for different people. There is no single celebration of Christmas, as the winter solstice is celebrated across the world and has been long before Jesus came along.

[BeefJeRKy]

As I saw it, Christmas in North America for the most part centers around the tradition of Yule and the family and Santa Claus. However, now that I am in Beirut for the Holiday, I found that Christmas here is all about the birth of Christ. Everything is a lot more pious feeling. True people still get gifts and decorate a tree but nearly everybody who is slightly Christian goes to Church that evening (I didn't because my dad dislikes Church much to the dismay of his family and my mother is Muslim). Honestly, there is something slightly less artificial feeling but I do not know how to explain it.

[TehKiller]

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nearly everybody who is slightly Christian goes to Church that evening

Damn true. I dont go to church much but I go to the Christmass mass every year (ok I didnt go this year cuz i was sick...) and almost everyone I kno also went. Its some feeling that makes you really want to be there.



Now to the atheists Christmass is to get gifts from a man Coca-Cola invented (and used the name of St. Nicholas which is in dutch pronounced Santa Cluse or somethign like that)....this makes it actually a combination of Yule and St. Nicholases day (some Europeans....actually the dutch to be exact....had a tradition to give gifts on St. Nicholas) and set the date to coincide with a Christian holyday