What do you expect from Dawn of War 2 expa...
General
24 Mar 2009
I know there isn't any official news about this nor even rumours but still such a successfull game would surely have an expansion pack or two !
So what do you expect from that expansion pack ?
I personally should like to see atleast Chaos and Tau sides even if they not do all of these 10 sides... Except that, base building, it would be cool to watch these Heretic units of Chaos to build structures with their odd moves
Edited by General, 24 March 2009 - 17:33.
So what do you expect from that expansion pack ?
I personally should like to see atleast Chaos and Tau sides even if they not do all of these 10 sides... Except that, base building, it would be cool to watch these Heretic units of Chaos to build structures with their odd moves

Edited by General, 24 March 2009 - 17:33.
Wizard
24 Mar 2009
I am pretty sure that base building will be a no go. Relic went a very different way with this game and although I haven't played enough 1v1 etc I think it will win out successfully in the end. There is plenty of legs in the online game yet, especially as the match ups are rather unbalanced (5/10 of the ranked players are 'Nids with only 2 Ork and 1 SM & 1 Eldar).
Expansion or DLC booster pack, as I reckon it's more likely to be, will probably offer more maps, there are like 6 right now and lots more wargear. 10 sides won't happen as there is no way to realistically balance them. This version of the game is much more about multiplayer than ever before.
I'd expect perhaps to see a new single person mission, possibly Eldar. Although if a new side was to be added it would probably be the IG as they would be easier to run the mission for as the Imperium/Webway is probably a better target market for the lore. I'd like them to add other races and the missions to accompany them but it just can't happen, the single player is too indepth this time around.
Expansion or DLC booster pack, as I reckon it's more likely to be, will probably offer more maps, there are like 6 right now and lots more wargear. 10 sides won't happen as there is no way to realistically balance them. This version of the game is much more about multiplayer than ever before.
I'd expect perhaps to see a new single person mission, possibly Eldar. Although if a new side was to be added it would probably be the IG as they would be easier to run the mission for as the Imperium/Webway is probably a better target market for the lore. I'd like them to add other races and the missions to accompany them but it just can't happen, the single player is too indepth this time around.
TehKiller
25 Mar 2009
Not in the long run...I predict they are going to be in the first (and possibly only) expansion..though posibility for the Kronz to appear too
Wizard
25 Mar 2009
TehKiller, on 25 Mar 2009, 10:45, said:
Not in the long run...I predict they are going to be in the first (and possibly only) expansion..though posibility for the Kronz to appear too
Relic has already stated that DoW2 will be supported for 5 years [Source] so I doubt that there will be a limit to one expansion. Although it might be in the form of regular DLC updates instead bonifide expansions.
Wizard
27 Mar 2009
Tau would be difficult to fit into the game I think.
In fact I am not very sure how they would expand this particular storyline.
*Spoiler Alert*
The Tau don't have a good reason to move to the sector unless they want to provoke all out war with the Imperium. It would be a case of deus ex machina to all of a sudden to discover the Necrons on Calderis or Typhon and I fail to see how they can bring in the Dark Eldar without it sounding very lame.
Personally I think that if there is to be an "expansion" it will have to be a totally new offensive for the SM, with the likely probability being utilising the IG as they are already present in DoWII. Maybe as an attempt of retribution on the Orks.
In fact I am not very sure how they would expand this particular storyline.
*Spoiler Alert*
Spoiler
The Tau don't have a good reason to move to the sector unless they want to provoke all out war with the Imperium. It would be a case of deus ex machina to all of a sudden to discover the Necrons on Calderis or Typhon and I fail to see how they can bring in the Dark Eldar without it sounding very lame.
Personally I think that if there is to be an "expansion" it will have to be a totally new offensive for the SM, with the likely probability being utilising the IG as they are already present in DoWII. Maybe as an attempt of retribution on the Orks.
Spoiler
Ion Cannon!
30 Mar 2009
I'd love base building, but that won't happen. Hopefully we will see chaos introduced, I love those crazy murdering satanists. They're evil, but so fun to play. I think another good addition would be more variance in the campaign missions, while they were quite enjoyable they were repeated to much. Wether this would take the form of a new campaign - maybe from the new race, or as an expansion to the blood ravens campaign.
A really original campaign would be nice as well, more in the vein of WC3, you start good, get corrupted and end up playing as the chaos. Sounds a bit cliche but with the wealth of lore at relics disposal you could get a truly epic campaign from that.
A really original campaign would be nice as well, more in the vein of WC3, you start good, get corrupted and end up playing as the chaos. Sounds a bit cliche but with the wealth of lore at relics disposal you could get a truly epic campaign from that.
Wizard
30 Mar 2009
Would seem that 42% of the Relic community want Chaos added. Wonder if the devs will listen?
General
30 Mar 2009
Wizard, on 30 Mar 2009, 14:42, said:
Would seem that 42% of the Relic community want Chaos added. Wonder if the devs will listen?
Its not because they are evil but for this side is well designed as visual and sounds of Chaos so cool, I can say that Heretic builder unit is one of the oddest yet good unit I've seen in most games, I want base building back just to watch that dude building structures in Hi-Definition

And I agree with Insomniac with adding a few more things to it ( it will be similiar but cooler than Soulstorm Meta Map ) : You start with Space Marines again, then some events lead you to the way of Chaos, and you play with Chaos and take the worlds in a sector, then you play as Imperial Guard to end this corruption, then Necrons awaken to eradicate the life from this sector, you play as Necrons to take all of the worlds, when you succeeded; Eldar will come with all its might to fight with their nemesis and won, bring peace to the sector with force, then Tau comes and brings the greater good, if you like you may add Dark Eldar to fuck up the story even more

TehKiller
30 Mar 2009
As soon as I heard the Chaos battle taunts in the middle of the battle I went like "OMG". (this is in DoW ofc)
Ion Cannon!
30 Mar 2009
Skirmish just isn't the same with tiny amounts of units and no base building, for the campaign it works fine. For skirmish I really don't like it. DOW implies a war, not 15-20 units....
TehKiller
31 Mar 2009
Agreed...skirmish is way better with bases...CoH for example is about WW2 and alot of tactical gameplay (limited amount of units and all that stuff) yet you still got basebuilding
Wizard
31 Mar 2009
I've read a lot about people's opinions on the difference between DoWI & DoWII in the last few days and I am not sure I am 100% behind the point of base building. I agree that it adds another dimension to the game, but have you ever tried to knock out the HQ in DoWII? It takes nearly a week.....it's not like you don't get time to replenish your forces. I remember a beta game Dauth and I had against 2 Medium Comps. It took us ages to finish them off. And that was with 2 fully pop capped sides pounding down on the bases, including 2 Dreads which are literally wtfpwn units atm.
In some respects I think it is the fact that this game really does something different with the RTS genre. Not worrying so heavily about the build order, although it's obviously a factor, but more about the tactics of the battle, more care of each individual unit, more strategic deployment. You can't spam something in the same way as other RTS games (well maybe some Nids). But it genuinely tries to make the genre different. And there seems to be something about this that sticks in the throats of some more hardened DoW players. Anyone new to the game absolutely loves it.
In some respects I think it is the fact that this game really does something different with the RTS genre. Not worrying so heavily about the build order, although it's obviously a factor, but more about the tactics of the battle, more care of each individual unit, more strategic deployment. You can't spam something in the same way as other RTS games (well maybe some Nids). But it genuinely tries to make the genre different. And there seems to be something about this that sticks in the throats of some more hardened DoW players. Anyone new to the game absolutely loves it.
Ion Cannon!
31 Mar 2009
I would argue you cant spam units on DoWI. At least not against the harder AI's or human players. I can live without base building, but I like my large armies. And if you know your stuff you can in use every unit / squad to maximum effectiveness in DoWI. Its to easy and frankly boring to control 15 units effectively. The unit selection is also dire, no terminators unless you have alot of zeal, no LR, you can't customise your tanks and squads nearly as much as you could in DoWI either. DoWI had a winning and balanced formula, they even managed to pull off super units well. There was no need to change it from WAR to SKIRMISH. Its like replacing the battle of the Pellenor Fields for a fight between 20 orcs and 10 humans.
Edited by Insomniac!, 31 March 2009 - 18:55.
Edited by Insomniac!, 31 March 2009 - 18:55.
Wizard
31 Mar 2009
I admit the unit variety is poor right now. Let's keep our fingers crossed the the first DLC has these things included, plus as many new maps as possible.
Just thought of something.....does anyone else remember seeing 4 plants in the start to the single player mission for sub sector Aurelia? Yet you can only travel to 3.....hmmmmm
Just thought of something.....does anyone else remember seeing 4 plants in the start to the single player mission for sub sector Aurelia? Yet you can only travel to 3.....hmmmmm
General
01 Apr 2009
Yes I remember there was 4 planets but one of its population down suddenly to zero, maybe we should see some more explanation on it.
Wizard
01 Apr 2009
I wish the expansion was just like this
Pre-game visualisation
This would be so sweet to have it actually play like it as well.
Also, just discovered that the first big patch for the game will go live in just under 2 weeks w00t!!
Source
Pre-game visualisation
This would be so sweet to have it actually play like it as well.
Also, just discovered that the first big patch for the game will go live in just under 2 weeks w00t!!

Source
Ion Cannon!
01 Apr 2009
That video is much more like it, maybe the files to allow that stuff is still around somewere. If those are found and unlocked I am definately downloading them.
Wizard
01 Apr 2009
It's made 100% in Maya and apparently took every dev's machine about a week to render

General
01 Apr 2009
pɹɐzıʍ, on 1 Apr 2009, 9:38, said:
I wish the expansion was just like this
Pre-game visualisation
This would be so sweet to have it actually play like it as well.
Also, just discovered that the first big patch for the game will go live in just under 2 weeks w00t!!
Source
Pre-game visualisation
This would be so sweet to have it actually play like it as well.
Also, just discovered that the first big patch for the game will go live in just under 2 weeks w00t!!

Source
That looks cool because you catch all the details without a textured background, background grey and empty, it let us see the tiniest particles and animations better, which is same in current version


About the updates, game seriously need a quick-fix to current fatal bugs which annoys players, after that, we need moar maps !
As we see from the video Wizard posted : Pre-game visualisation , AIR UNITS already done !

MR.Kim
01 Apr 2009
Only I want more burtal combat, more special effect(specially destroy building or bridge) and new campaing.
I don't think they don't add new races this time.
I don't think they don't add new races this time.
D.K.
01 Apr 2009
I'd like to see assault marines having explosives strapped to their legs so when they leap, they turn half of the map upside down.
On the serious note, what I would like to see is using of destroyable and static things on map, e.g. Force commander has 2-hand hammer, and nails some poor Guardian into some random spike or into wall.
On the serious note, what I would like to see is using of destroyable and static things on map, e.g. Force commander has 2-hand hammer, and nails some poor Guardian into some random spike or into wall.
BloatedPope
31 Jul 2009
Based on the storyline and the game's focus on strategy I think the game should definately progress with the Eldar. Their storyline indicated that the hive fleet would head to Craftworld Ulthwe next. Now I know that the Blood Ravens defeat the tyranids in the end but the fleet was just broken, not destroyed. It could make an interesting storyline and there would be room for other races to be involved. Perhaps Chaos or the Tau