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[OrionWarrior]

Who still programs Pascal? I'm starting programming with Pascal, because I have load of books teaching it.
Someone else?

Cumps.

[CJ]

Oh well, I cannot say that I'm really programming in Pascal, but that's what we're learning at high school, and I honestly would've preferred if they were teaching us some useful language instead... I mean C/C++ is more used than pascal, and could come more in handy...

[OrionWarrior]

Commander Carl, on 30 Jul 2009, 18:18, said:

Oh well, I cannot say that I'm really programming in Pascal, but that's what we're learning at high school, and I honestly would've preferred if they were teaching us some useful language instead... I mean C/C++ is more used than pascal, and could come more in handy...

Pascal will be your only language? I agree that Pascal is a good language to learn basic programming concepts, but that's it.
C/C++/Java are the languages worth to learn and develop.

[CJ]

Yep it'll be the only one, even the informatics branch covers only pascal, plus a bit of webdesign... (when our outdated machines manage to launch Macromedia Dreamweaver after 15 minutes )

[OrionWarrior]

Weird. My sister went on a informatics branch, learned pascal, visual basic(most worked), java, C++(Not much).
Education should be universal. Everything the same.

[CJ]

Education can't be universal, that's simply impossible as that would interfere with the local cultures, also you must know that in Tunisia, informatics at School are a quite new concept, and not all countries can afford these additional expenses. (But that's not the point of the topic anyways )

[OrionWarrior]

True. Still, some areas are too much under developed. And my opinion is that education is a excellent way to the development of a country. And since some governments don't seem to understand, they don't develop.

[CodeCat]

Pascal was initially developed the 1970s or something for educational purposes. I'm not sure it was ever meant to be a professionally used language, and it shows. C and C++ were developed 'for the developers', so they have a lot more features that are just practical rather than 'good for learning'.

That said, I think Java is the best language to learn programming in, because it's more practical than Pascal but still harder to shoot yourself in the foot with than C.

[CJ]

CodeCat, on 31 Jul 2009, 10:44, said:

That said, I think Java is the best language to learn programming in, because it's more practical than Pascal but still harder to shoot yourself in the foot with than C.

I'm not quite sure about that, Java gives the impression it's very hard to use, plus it seems very buggy (At least, all the Java programs I tried on 4 differents computers actually had some bugs, but I may just be cursed )

[OrionWarrior]

Commander Carl, on 31 Jul 2009, 11:01, said:

CodeCat, on 31 Jul 2009, 10:44, said:

That said, I think Java is the best language to learn programming in, because it's more practical than Pascal but still harder to shoot yourself in the foot with than C.

I'm not quite sure about that, Java gives the impression it's very hard to use, plus it seems very buggy (At least, all the Java programs I tried on 4 differents computers actually had some bugs, but I may just be cursed )

Java gives mores jobs

[BeefJeRKy]

Commander Carl, on 31 Jul 2009, 13:01, said:

CodeCat, on 31 Jul 2009, 10:44, said:

That said, I think Java is the best language to learn programming in, because it's more practical than Pascal but still harder to shoot yourself in the foot with than C.

I'm not quite sure about that, Java gives the impression it's very hard to use, plus it seems very buggy (At least, all the Java programs I tried on 4 differents computers actually had some bugs, but I may just be cursed )

Java has a ton of resources online. If you wanna teach yourself, get JavaDR and find some tutorials on Sun's website.