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[NergiZed]

Server split coming on Dec 20-24, along with the next patch. More info here



Also, bought a VK 3001(P) and it is literally the shittest shit that had ever been shat. It's a tier 6 medium that behaves like a heavy, cept without the nig guns, health and armor. 40K exp grind to the VK (DB) is gonna be brutal... :(

Edited by NergiZed, 08 December 2010 - 21:04.

[Sgt. Nuker]

Speaking of the VK3001P, I've had the pleasure of trolling a couple of those tanks with my Sherman.

At first, I'll admit, I wasn't too excited about the server split, but after a few games last night, I'm glad it'll be happening. Just kind of stinks we aren't getting a soft-wipe until next year. Ah well. Gives me more of a chance to store up experience.

[NergiZed]

Stupid softwipe is delayed to like January...

But yeah, like I said, the VK 3001 (P) is probably the shittiet shit that has ever shat. The vanilla tank is slower than the KV, which is sad considering it's one tier higher and is a medium tank. Not only that, it has about the same profile as a tiger, yet lacks the armor and slopes, HP, and most other things that make a tank compitent. Not only are it's upgrades ungodly expensive, literally none of it's upgrades port over to the DB excpet for some hugely expensive radio.

I will likely free xp my way up to the DB, but since I ahve to save up for preimium again due to the softwipe being moved back, it's gonna be a painful grind. Well, I just got it a better engine at least, went from an unexceptable 470 to 600 hp; now it's fast enough to be considered a medium tank, still turns like a boat though.

IS-3's grind to IS-4 will at least be fun (1/16th of the way there...), that thing has really started to get awesome now that it's fully decked out, crew is all 98% and I've learned a thing or two about angeling my tank.

Besides that, I'm just mining for xp and creds at this point. Got 6 elite tanks mining and over 80k in transferable xp at this point.

I think when the softwipe comes, I'm gonna still go Soviet Heavy branch + S-51 and the German Mediums branch + Leopard (and hopefully get the Panther II when that comes out). I'm gonna also go down the German TD branch and the Soviet Mediums branch next time around, since my friend seems to be having a lot of fun with those tanks.

I really think American heavies is gonna be shit, especially since they're losing 20% of their armor soon. (Also all the US heavies have zero historical significance, so I just don't care about them). The Sherman's fun and all, but the Easy 8 I hear is shit (and doesn't get the 105mm), so the entire US treee is just meh for me at this point. The Pershing is interesting, but it doesn't seem to historically significant for me and there's nothing in the middle that I want, so it's gonna be hard to grind up all those tiers just to get the Pershing. I think I'll just save up for the French and eventually the Brits tanks. The French have some hilariously compensatory tanks and SPGs.

Edited by NergiZed, 10 December 2010 - 01:41.

[Sgt. Nuker]

If I've heard or read right, the Easy 8 is supposedly getting the M4's 105mm, which, coupled with a vertical stabilizer would be really, really nasty. The Pershing holds a special place for me, mostly because it'll be a mobile platform for the 90mm M3. Perhaps it'll be able to upgrade to the 90mm T5E1 (10mm more penetration and better RoF). At any rate, I'll want a Pershing and a T29, despite the fact the US heavies are "losing" 20% of their armour. Actually, what they're apparently fixing is the US heavy's turret armour was valued at 120%, not 100%, so what they're "losing" isn't really anything.

Speaking from experience, the IS-3's grind to the IS-4 is a loooooong road. 168k experience is something you HAVE to want to grind out. I've only just completed that quest Wednesday, and the only thing holding me back now is credits. Just over 3,1 million for the IS-4 and I have a little over half of that sum.

If I remember right, and judging by the silhouette, the VK3001(P) was Porsche's submission for a German heavy tank. It was supposed to be the Tiger. However, for various reasons, Hitler went with the Henschel design, despite Porsche's being more mobile and an overall more capable chassis/design.

[Kaido]

The only good thing about the Vk3001P is when you get the 88mm gun. Then you can do at least some damage against higher tiers. Also VK3001P can be used as a scout for its high speed,

[NergiZed]

 Drag#!, on 10 Dec 2010, 0:50, said:

The only good thing about the Vk3001P is when you get the 88mm gun. Then you can do at least some damage against higher tiers. Also VK3001P can be used as a scout for its high speed,

Looking at it's upgrades, I think it might be something I'll want keep later on for eliting.

The Pz III/IV was something I thought of keeping, but that thing just does no damage.

My games with the VK 3001P is improving but it's far from satisfactory. I think I'm still gonna shoot straight for the VK DB with nothing except the engine upgrade. If the darn thing miraculously gets better during that time, than I might keep it, but otherwise, moving on to the DB.

Do you have a DB by chance?

 Sgt. Nuker, on 10 Dec 2010, 0:22, said:

If I've heard or read right, the Easy 8 is supposedly getting the M4's 105mm, which, coupled with a vertical stabilizer would be really, really nasty. The Pershing holds a special place for me, mostly because it'll be a mobile platform for the 90mm M3. Perhaps it'll be able to upgrade to the 90mm T5E1 (10mm more penetration and better RoF). At any rate, I'll want a Pershing and a T29, despite the fact the US heavies are "losing" 20% of their armour. Actually, what they're apparently fixing is the US heavy's turret armour was valued at 120%, not 100%, so what they're "losing" isn't really anything.

Speaking from experience, the IS-3's grind to the IS-4 is a loooooong road. 168k experience is something you HAVE to want to grind out. I've only just completed that quest Wednesday, and the only thing holding me back now is credits. Just over 3,1 million for the IS-4 and I have a little over half of that sum.

If I remember right, and judging by the silhouette, the VK3001(P) was Porsche's submission for a German heavy tank. It was supposed to be the Tiger. However, for various reasons, Hitler went with the Henschel design, despite Porsche's being more mobile and an overall more capable chassis/design.

I heard about the Easy 8 getting the 105 as well, but at the moment, I'm just tired of the American tree. I've reached the Sherman, which is what I wanted, and it's good, but I think I can move on to something else.

IS-4 is something I'm getting immediately after the softwipe, I will slowly grind xp anyhow though, so I might get there beforehand.

Well, the 3001P sure handles like a Tiger at first, however, I don't see a single thing in the stats that says 'heavy tank'. I wish it did, but it's stats are kinda poopoo for even a medium, let alone a heavy.

Edited by NergiZed, 10 December 2010 - 06:40.

[Kaido]

Yes i do have DB and its awesome

[Sgt. Nuker]

Don't forget hat the game stats aren't necessarily the ones the tank had in real life. There are numerous occasions in which tanks have more or less armour or lower speed than what the tank would have had in real life. In some cases, ammo capacity isn't what it was for the actual tank, so it is quite possible that the VK 3001(P) was robbed of some stats to "balance" it out because of the speeds it can achieve and the firepower it can mount. I was only a design submission by Porsche, and there was at least one working prototype made. It weighed less than the design that was eventually chosen for production.

Seems everyone's going to have an IS-4 after the wipe......

[NergiZed]

Yep, a million IS-4s.

Though I hope that a lot of the US folks over here will stay with the US tree due to bloody blind patriotism. Most US tanks suck comparatively, and the Heavies are the only ones that are 'good', which may be less good with 20% less armor.

Edit: BIG bombshelled dropped on the WoT forums:

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- 9 new vehicles, including 3 tier 9 mediums, 5 SPGs and Object 704 will be added in January.

- Then come US TDs along with some German and Soviet tanks from full tech trees (KV-13).

- Finally, French tanks (end of Q1 2011)

So new tanks are all post-wipe. Hopefully it's early January before class starts, I really want the Panther II, and I wanna see if I can get to the new big Soviet arty. Don't think I'll give a hoot about German arty, or that big TD (object 704). I think I'll be looking foward to the expanded German line between January and April, German vehicles could use a boost. don't think the Russias could get any better.

Edited by NergiZed, 10 December 2010 - 17:35.

[Sgt. Nuker]

Did a little bit of digging, and Objekt 704 is really just a buffed ISU-152. Don't know, as of yet, if the guns will be the same or slightly different, but from what I've read, "Objekt 704" should have a more powerful motor and be a bit more mobile/maneuverable. "Should be" being the operative term here.

Found a few more pictures of the US SPG's/artillery that will eventually be released: Tier 6 SPG: M12 and Tier 7 SPG: M40/M43, respectively.

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•  Tier7M40M43.jpg (120.88K)
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Edited by Sgt. Nuker, 11 December 2010 - 05:15.

[NergiZed]

The new Panzer Panther Geshutzwagen Gusundheit whatever von blitzkreig thing.

Good find btw, didn't see those yet, still zero interest in the US tree though.

So that's it then, the next updatae, coming in January, will contain 2 US, 2 German, and one Soviet SPGs, the three mediums and the one big soviet TD. I think we compiled at least an image of every one of the tanks in this thread.

All I can say is that I can't wait for the wipe.

Edited by NergiZed, 11 December 2010 - 06:26.

[NergiZed]

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v.0.6.2.7 preview:

- Added new medium tanks: Т-54, Panther II, Pershing.
- Added new TD "Object" 704.
- Added new SPGs: "Object" 212, G-Tiger, G-Panther, M12, M40/M43.

- Increased reverse speed for tier 7, 8, 9 medium tanks.
- Rebalanced characteristics for all guns and ammo for current SPGs tiers 3, 4, 5, 6.
- Increased hit points for tier 7, 8, 9 medium tanks.
- Increased the visibility for tier 8, 9, 10 heavy tanks by 25% during movement and at rest

- Reworked match-making system.
- Fixed bug with not saving status of ammo-resupply checkbox.
- Fixed incorrect messages on recieving achievements in service channel.
- "Not ready" button now unlocked for platoon leaded in waiting line before battle.
- Corrected unobvious descriptions of new achievements.

Topic for discussion

Attention! the list of changes is not full.

This is the preview for the version after the one coming in December. However:

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The v.0.6.2.x patch itself - yes, but we are not sure about the last v.0.6.2.7 update with 9 new vehicles.

It will be included if it is ready.

So there's a possiblity that we'll get the 9 new vehicles (which have already been posted here) in December.

A lot of other news:

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A selection of the latest from the dev on the official forums:

New TK system in development:
http://forum.worldof...ndpost&p=285522
Overlord posted:

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100% automated anti-TK system is in development at the moment. The current system only detects violators and afterwards the support service takes measures against them if needed.

New system will be totally impartial, no human factor.

Most recent estimate for live release:
http://forum.worldof...ndpost&p=288006
Overlord posted:

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Likely that US TDs will be added after the game goes live (Ferbuary-March 2011). Regarding E-series, even can't give you any rough date.

Re-work of tracking system:
http://forum.worldof...292#entry289292
Overlord posted:

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So as not to redo collision models of all tanks, the size of front and rear trucks/wheels for each particular vehicle will be specified in %.

I.e. suspenison/tracks will consist of 3 major parts:

- front (approx 15-20% of its length)
- middle
- rear (approx 15-20%)

Hits for each part are to be calculated separately:
Hitting the front and rear parts will detrack the vehicle the way it works currently, ie the damage done to leading wheel or idler.
The middle part will have more hit points and reduced chance to be damaged.

The above is supposed to reduce the effectiveness of plain firing at tracks. One will need to aim accurately to detrack the opponent (damage either front or rear wheel/truck)

The image below roughly represents new system.



Green areas will be limited to the size of leading wheel and idler.

The above changes will take place in one of the upcoming updates in 2011

Also, I just got rid of my VK 3001(P) and got myself a VK 3002(DB) and IT IS FANTASTTIC. The thing speedy, tough, and has really accurate guns; i was doing incredibly well for a vanilla tank (with 75% commander). It actually doesn't really have much of a downside, probably one of the best mediums in the game. I'm a happy camper.

Edited by NergiZed, 15 December 2010 - 23:55.

[Sgt. Nuker]

I'll be getting a Pershing after the wipe, for sure.

Noticed a few things that I like that will be coming in the update. Increased reverse speed for tier 7-10 heavies. I know I'll hate it going against those heavies, but I'll love it if it's significant enough to notice. Increased visibility for tier 8-10 heavies is also really nice. Can't stand the way the spotting system is now though.

I'm hoping the new way of going about the tracks is going to help "cure" the so-called "perma-tracking" as far as artillery goes. The new system is the way it should have been all along. Ah well, it's just a beta and after the patch, it should be good.

No US td's until after the game goes live? O_o To be quite honest, that's just retarded.

[NergiZed]

 Sgt. Nuker, on 16 Dec 2010, 1:00, said:

I'm hoping the new way of going about the tracks is going to help "cure" the so-called "perma-tracking" as far as artillery goes. The new system is the way it should have been all along. Ah well, it's just a beta and after the patch, it should be good.

Track repa-
They blew off our track!

Track repa-
They blew off our track!

Track repa-
They blew off our track!

Track repa-
They blew off our track!

Track repa-
They blew off our track!

Track's up- everybody bail out.

 Sgt. Nuker, on 16 Dec 2010, 1:00, said:

No US td's until after the game goes live? O_o To be quite honest, that's just retarded.

My care for US tanks has basically dropped to zero at this point. I want big German and Soviet arties, I want nice German and Soviet tier 9 mediums, and I want my Soviet heavies. Those are basically my post-wipe goals. Oh, and I also want to dabble in the French tanks, for lulz mainly.


Edit: Huge data base of win-lose statistics on tanks: linky

Lots oif numbers in that thread, summary: German tanks are most popular, and generally speaking, they're all pretty equal in terms of the win-lose ratio.

Edited by NergiZed, 16 December 2010 - 07:38.

[Sgt. Nuker]

German tanks are most popular? Not by the look of those numbers mate. There may be a ton of German tanks in the game, but it's the Russian and US tanks that are winning. German tanks just take a lot of punishment....unless of course you factor in the "artillery", which instantly negates all the armour any tank has.

The same with any tank, you've got to know how to use it. The stats on the US heavies are actually nerfed to begin with, because the hull and turret armour on the real life T29/30/32/34 is actually much better than it is in game (hurray for "balancing" the game by tiers). I'll be grabbing an M26 and T29 post-wipe, mostly because I like them and out of all the US tanks, they're the ones I want most. Outside of that, I'll be getting back my IS-2 and IS-3 and picking up the IS-4. On the German side of things I'll have the King Tiger and Jadgpanther.

[Destiny]

They probably think the US TDs are going to be so OP they're only releasing them when the game goes live.






M18 Hellcat

[Kris]

German tanks are popular for getting killed considering how the game devs favour russians and its ally, the US.

[NergiZed]

 Kris, on 17 Dec 2010, 3:58, said:

German tanks are popular for getting killed considering how the game devs favour russians and its ally, the US.

Really? imo, US tanks are complete and utter poo. The only reason why the US heavies are compitent at the moment is because of the accidental extra 20% armor; once that's gone the all US tanks will be back down in the shitter.

Hopefully they'll give the 100mm to the Easy 8 next patch cause that's pretty much the reason I stopped at the Sherman.

[Sgt. Nuker]

There is a rumour that the Easy 8 will be getting the M4 105mm howitzer, but it's not in the patch notes. Would be nice though, since the Easy 8 has access to the vertical stabilizer. Add this to the fact the the M4 105 is getting a 15% reduction in aiming time and the Easy 8 suddenly looks more viable.

Edited by Sgt. Nuker, 20 December 2010 - 22:29.

[NergiZed]

New info revealed:

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v.0.6.2.7 additional information

Research costs:

Т-54: 167.025
Panther II: 164.535
M26 Pershing: 174.690
"Object" 704: 152 900
"Object" 212 (SU-14 path): 185.570
"Object" 212 (S-51 path): 185.200
Gw-Panther: 116.580
Gw-Tiger: 166.000
M12: 112.250
M40/M43: 148.720

Price in credits:

Т-54: 2.940.000
Panther II: 2.850.000
Pershing: 2.980.000
"Object" 704: 3.547.000
"Object" 212: 2.490.000
Gw-Panther: 1.250.000
Gw-Tiger: 2.560.000
M12: 1.120.000
M40/M43: 2.438.000

Also, some nice new renders of some of the tanks we've already seen here.

Finally, the server split's been delayed till January. :(

@ Nuker, ja I think that would push me over and I'd get the Easy 8 at that point, but imo, those two tanks after that (The T-20 and the T-24 or something) and literally the ugliest tanks ever. For goodness sakes, the DB, which was also an experimental tank that may or may not have ever left the drawing board at least looks spectacular; the T20 looks like a tin can on a shoe-box with the most awkward tred placement ever.

Edited by NergiZed, 19 December 2010 - 06:19.

[Sgt. Nuker]

Well, that's interesting. The Pershing is the most to research, and costs the most to buy. Anyone else see the disparity in this?

The T-20 may be ugly, but it performs well. The T-23 looks a bit better, but in all honesty, whether it's a T-20 or T-23, I see them as food for my IS-3 (and certainly fodder for the IS-4 I'll be getting post-wipe).

[Sgt. Nuker]

Relevant double post spotted:

World of Tanks Christmas GOODIES!!!

The Loewe looks like a rather nice premium tank, though I presume it'll suffer performance wise because there are no upgrades for the premiums. Also, I loooooooove goooooollllllddddddd. 500 gold is now being dropped to each player from December 20th until January 2nd.

[NergiZed]

Oh Mah Gawd. I can finally upgrade the hell out of my stuff~! I've got over 80k in free exp, and I've been saving up gold for premium for quite some time.

Also, new tanks are swell. I think they just revealed most of everything from now till February. No renders of the M-18 Hellcat or the T-95 super heavy tank though, but the Lowe and the E-series Arty looks swell. When the US TDs come around, I think I'll give that line a spin.

Also, KV-5: DO WANT



I love my KV (technically KV-2) and if that thing gets the 155mm, than that is my tank of choice.

God, I'm gonna get 500 Gold tonight. Epic win.

Also:

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some other pleasant surprises are also possible.

I bet on X-mas day, all maps are snowing and/or a full day of double xp and/or the patch is coming out (the small one with two maps and tweaks).

Edited by NergiZed, 21 December 2010 - 00:06.

[Sgt. Nuker]

If you click the link now, you'll see some preliminary stats on the T-54, Panther II, Pershing, G-Panther & G-Tiger, Objekt 212, Objekt 704, the M12, and the M40/43. All I can say is that by the looks of things, the T-54 is going to not only make the T-44 look slow, but make a fool out of every other tank.

[Dutchygamer]

 NergiZed, on 21 Dec 2010, 0:59, said:

Oh Mah Gawd. I can finally upgrade the hell out of my stuff~! I've got over 80k in free exp, and I've been saving up gold for premium for quite some time.

Also, new tanks are swell. I think they just revealed most of everything from now till February. No renders of the M-18 Hellcat or the T-95 super heavy tank though, but the Lowe and the E-series Arty looks swell. When the US TDs come around, I think I'll give that line a spin.

Also, KV-5: DO WANT



I love my KV (technically KV-2) and if that thing gets the 155mm, than that is my tank of choice.

God, I'm gonna get 500 Gold tonight. Epic win.

Also:

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some other pleasant surprises are also possible.

I bet on X-mas day, all maps are snowing and/or a full day of double xp and/or the patch is coming out (the small one with two maps and tweaks).

If that thing is coming ingame, I'm very tempted to pick up this game again