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Poll: Custom maps (12 member(s) have cast votes)

Should we add them?

  1. Yes, add them (8 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. No, stock only (3 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. I don't use the server (null vote) (1 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

Slye_Fox's Photo Slye_Fox 12 Oct 2010

This a poll to decide if custom maps are added to the FS server.
I request that only people who use the server actually vote.
Also, you may leave a comment if you wish.
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Amdrial's Photo Amdrial 12 Oct 2010

I myself would rather have stock maps on the server only. People have already reasoned that a custom map discourages people to join, and I'll stand with that opinion.
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CodeCat's Photo CodeCat 12 Oct 2010

I would certainly like to see pl_frontier return again. Perhaps we could also add prophunt and dodgeball maps but that seems like a better idea for specific days only. For example a 'dodgeball day' once each week.
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Kaido's Photo Kaido 12 Oct 2010

Depends on the maps of course, and how we vote for a map. But otherwise I'd like to have few non-stock maps.
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Enthusiasm's Photo Enthusiasm 12 Oct 2010

YES! Give me Lazytown! As long as there's voting I don't see a problem with it.
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TehKiller's Photo TehKiller 12 Oct 2010

If you can fix the literally retarded (well true definition of retardation is slowing down) download speed then I wouldnt mind customs
Edited by TehKiller, 12 October 2010 - 15:50.
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TheDR's Photo TheDR 12 Oct 2010

View PostTehKiller, on 12 Oct 2010, 16:49, said:

If you can fix the literally retarded (well true definition of retardation is slowing down) download speed then I wouldnt mind customs

No, we can't unfortunately.
Edited by TheDR, 12 October 2010 - 16:37.
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Sgt. Nuker's Photo Sgt. Nuker 12 Oct 2010

Personally I'm for new maps being added, however I do have some reserve as to which maps are added. Certain maps don't have the same sort of "feel" you get from the official maps. Yes, I understand that official maps are that way for a reason, it shouldn't be too difficult to find maps that have the same quality appearance.

Picking up on what Code said, dedicated maps like the one for dodgeball may not be such a bad idea. It's something different and may actually attract more players than it would repel.
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CJ's Photo CJ 12 Oct 2010

View PostTheDR, on 12 Oct 2010, 17:36, said:

View PostTehKiller, on 12 Oct 2010, 16:49, said:

If you can fix the literally retarded (well true definition of retardation is slowing down) download speed then I wouldnt mind customs

No, we can't unfortunately.

You know my opinion on the subjet, either you can speed up the dl, or it's a big nope.
However, Codecat's suggestion (especially for the dodgeball maps) is, IMO, a great idea!
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Mr Pixel's Photo Mr Pixel 12 Oct 2010

There, finally registered to the forums :P

In my opinion, yes, we should defiantly add custom maps to the server. There is a huge amount of good maps we're missing by just playing the officials, and a lot of them add very much to the game (such as the new Dogdeball gametype).

However, I certainly think the same way as TehKiller and CJ: slow download times are messing it up for many us. This can obviously not be fixed for random users of the server, but for us Fallout members, there might be a solution: Map packs.

If we add custom maps to the server in packs, and then bunch the maps together into an archive (.zip, .rar... yeah, you get it) and put the archive up to a file sharing site such as Mediafire, at least the members of group can download the maps fast. The map packs could then be released once a month or something like that, where - the top 5 or maybe top 10? - voted maps are added. What do you think about that?
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CodeCat's Photo CodeCat 13 Oct 2010

View PostTheDR, on 12 Oct 2010, 18:36, said:

View PostTehKiller, on 12 Oct 2010, 16:49, said:

If you can fix the literally retarded (well true definition of retardation is slowing down) download speed then I wouldnt mind customs

No, we can't unfortunately.

Yes you can. Use the webserver for the downloads.
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Hobbesy's Photo Hobbesy 13 Oct 2010

But we have to shell out additional cash to do that with Gameservers. A better alternative would be to link to the maps here on FS, let people download them, and leave the customs out of the mapcycle. That way people can simply vote for them.
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Wizard's Photo Wizard 13 Oct 2010

View PostHobbesy, on 13 Oct 2010, 16:47, said:

But we have to shell out additional cash to do that with Gameservers.

Where did you get that from?
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Hobbesy's Photo Hobbesy 13 Oct 2010

You can get a web server from them by dishing out extra cash, but I get the feeling we could just use our server for it.
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Wizard's Photo Wizard 13 Oct 2010

View PostHobbesy, on 13 Oct 2010, 17:26, said:

You can get a web server from them by dishing out extra cash, but I get the feeling we could just use our server for it.

We could indeed use Nagini to distribute custom content to anyone playing on our server. We simply use sv_downloadurl in the server config, but that generates several issues that are not really open to discussion here.
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Sgt. Nuker's Photo Sgt. Nuker 13 Oct 2010

Then, instead of using a server function, why not dedicate a thread to the downloading of custom maps that the users have already voted on? This way people that actually play on the server will have easy access to the new maps, and no extra funds need be spent.
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Slye_Fox's Photo Slye_Fox 13 Oct 2010

View PostSgt. Nuker, on 13 Oct 2010, 23:05, said:

Then, instead of using a server function, why not dedicate a thread to the downloading of custom maps that the users have already voted on? This way people that actually play on the server will have easy access to the new maps, and no extra funds need be spent.


We actually did that, before the custom maps were removed.

Anyway, here's how I think we should do custom map adding;
1. Anyone can suggest a map
2. Server admins play the map to test it's validity
3. A admin vote is done, if is passes go to step 4
4. Players then vote if the map is added
5. is it passes, it's added tot he server
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CodeCat's Photo CodeCat 14 Oct 2010

What if 3 fails when 4 passes with an overwhelming majority?
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Sgt. Nuker's Photo Sgt. Nuker 14 Oct 2010

I believe it's safe to assume that if 3 fails, step 4 doesn't happen.
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Wizard's Photo Wizard 14 Oct 2010

View PostSlye_Fox, on 13 Oct 2010, 23:19, said:

2. Server admins play the map to test it's validity

I think that the phrase "validity" is more to do with it's integrity and server issues, rather than "whether the admins like it". We'd probably vote for it or not in the same way as the rest of the members.
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MiraclePig's Photo MiraclePig 14 Oct 2010

I really want custom maps, and i don't see how its a problem if they aren't in the rotation.
Having a "Fun Night" or something with several different mods and maps would be awsome, and i think that it might also attract more players to become regulars.
As for the system Slye proposed, I think it might turn out to be a very slow process, thus not very good IMO. I don't see why it would have to be so much work adding a map, since they wont be in rotation you can just remove the maps that we don't play.

I would love to see "Stag" again, i really enjoyed that map and all its rockety fun. And I would like the Donkey Kong Payload map, as a Fun map ofc. If there where to be a special day for weird stuff I would also like to play the mod, One Vs. All.
I havent played the dodgeball thing yet, but if yo guys like it im sure its great and i would love to play that as well.

So YES, Custom Maps and soon!!!
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Wizard's Photo Wizard 14 Oct 2010

View PostMiraclePig, on 14 Oct 2010, 15:50, said:

As for the system Slye proposed, I think it might turn out to be a very slow process, thus not very good IMO. I don't see why it would have to be so much work adding a map, since they wont be in rotation you can just remove the maps that we don't play.
Any system for determining what maps get in is dependent on the outcome of this topic, so it's not really up for debate at this moment in time.

View PostMiraclePig, on 14 Oct 2010, 15:50, said:

So YES, Custom Maps and soon!!!

This is what we want to know 8D
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Slye_Fox's Photo Slye_Fox 22 Oct 2010

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