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[Ion Cannon!]

DA2 here we come!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/rea...r-Market?page=1

Seriously, I wish the shareholders from EA had a fucking brain between them, ME2 was a success (Though I don't think as good as ME1) you should be happy it's a success and stick with it. All this talk about getting the COD crowd, never going to happen. The problem is that the majority of the COD crowd aren't really gamers, they only play COD and will not behave in a gamer way. Gamers actively seek out and read as much information as possible on games before purchase, without spoilers anyway. This means that if a games primary audience is gamers AKA DA - And DA2 is bad, they're going to lose alot of custom, at the same time trying to attract people who care only for COD is a futile gesture. COD gamers will only by COD and they wouldn't give two shits if the game got the worst reviews in history. Thats not to say all COD players are such, but a large majority are.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/5141/bioware-...-dutys-audience

Bioware doesn't, EA and its greedy fucking idiotic shareholders do.

- Oh and heres my edited version of the article

According to EA's top man, the publisher is a huge believer in the Mass Effect franchise.

It came to light yesterday that Mass Effect 3 would not be coming out at the end of this year as was originally planned, and had slipped into early 2012. It seems now that part of that delay is down to EA and BioWare removing key elements of the game to appeal to morons who don't like depth.

Speaking during a conference call for investors, EA CEO John Riccitiello said that BioWare was making the game easier and simpler, while reducing it's length, complexity and overall sense of purpose to appeal to the lowest common denominator. This effort, he said, would put the game in a genre that was "equivalent to boring as fuck corridor shooter-meets- terribly dull simple RPG." He said that EA's share holders are a huge believer in exploiting the shit out of the franchise, while removing any enjoyment for the people who originally played the franchise.

This news has not gone down well in some quarters, with some already accusing EA of "dumbing down" the game, before it even comes out. The assumption seems to be that BioWare would focus on the shooter gameplay, and let the RPG elements fall by the wayside. It's important to remember, however, that this was a comment intended for investors, not gamers, so is undoubtedly lacking in context and detail. Although the same was said of Dragon Age 2 and that was a crock of horseshit.

BioWare's Casey Hudson may have previously stated that the combat in Mass Effect 3 would be the best in the series, but that definately means it will come from the expense RPG side. With more than seven months to go before the game comes out, it's probably best to look at Biowares previous effort Dragon Age 2, as this gives you a good example of the direction the game is going.

Edited by Ion Cannon!, 05 May 2011 - 16:30.

[Raven]

That's it. I was hoping to pre-order this. Not anymore :(.

[Pav:3d]

I dunno, I want to believe that Casey Hudson wouldn't be so willing to ruin this amazing universe he's created for the sake of some wanker shareholders.
And tweaking doesn't have to necessarily mean "dumbing down", at least I hope so anyway.
Sounds worrying, but Ill buy whatever they release tbh.

[Raven]

This talk exactly looks like what they did to DA2. I was so impressed with the game informer article and now this. Wish I didn't see it :S. This is so heart breaking. If EAs track record is to be considered, I don't think what you are hoping would happen Paved :(.

[Pav:3d]

Nice glowing crotch dude




Garus sneaking behind a Cerberus, or is it garus followingacerberuscozhesbetrayedshepardholyshit?!

[Raven]

I really hope that latter is not the case. I would not want to go against him. At least his broken armor is repaired in this

[Raven]

The E3 video seems to show voice command support, which might be pretty cool. You can even select dialog options by voice . I love the new blade weapon of Shepard

[Pav:3d]

Amid the all the videos the collectors edition was announced:



Shame there is no reaper statue, but ah well, at least the artbook is there and a robot dog(?!)

[Destiny]

Would be nice if they made a plastic model of one of those cool guns in a super-limited edition thingy :o

[Pav:3d]

Yeah the fans are crying out for something like that.

Not going to be released until friggin march 6th next year!

[Raven]

I was hoping for a model of the Normandy that was posted in this thread/

[Anubis]

For anyone who is expecting this game to be a combo of the first and second, i think this gameplay trailer shows that it's not gonna happen.

http://www.gametrail...s-effect/715589

Except for some additional powers/weapons the ME2 system of no inventory/no actual costumization/power integrated ammo types/no anything that would make it even slightly RPG, as well as the extremly narrow and scripted 1 way coridor style missions are back. So yeah, ME3 will be just a better looking ME2. And don't give me that .... it has more months till release. The game is mostly done and from here on they will just beta-test and if needed further dumb it down depending on how much they want to be controlled by the kinnect crap. So ... this is basicly another modern warfare in sci-fi cloths.

Edited by Anubis, 09 June 2011 - 07:34.

[Sgt. Rho]

The guy probably played like I do most of the time, gunning my way through. In ME1 I rearely ever opened the inventory.

[Pav:3d]

Anubis, on 9 Jun 2011, 8:33, said:

For anyone who is expecting this game to be a combo of the first and second, i think this gameplay trailer shows that it's not gonna happen.

http://www.gametrail...s-effect/715589

Except for some additional powers/weapons the ME2 system of no inventory/no actual costumization/power integrated ammo types/no anything that would make it even slightly RPG, as well as the extremly narrow and scripted 1 way coridor style missions are back. So yeah, ME3 will be just a better looking ME2. And don't give me that .... it has more months till release. The game is mostly done and from here on they will just beta-test and if needed further dumb it down depending on how much they want to be controlled by the kinnect crap. So ... this is basicly another modern warfare in sci-fi cloths.

Oh so cynical You should have watched the live playthrough on the EA site yesterday, they showed a lot of things that arent in the E3 videos.

There are now opportunities for stealth attacks (where he sneaks up to a cerberus operative and omni-blade's the guy) and the new menu had a wealth of customisable options, its like a simplified version of the ME1 points system, and you can upgrade individual powers. Also your gun can be customised on a workbench mid-level.

Mass Effect has always been a corridor game, You just chose what corridor missions you do first. It will no way be as super scripted as CoD games are where they just pull you along by a string while you shoot at passer by's.
They also said exploration will be back, with a brief video of the different worlds that very quickly showed 3 different locations on Tuchanka alone.

Also the kinect is only being used for its voice recognition, you wont be waving your hands around like in that moronic new Fable demo

[Anubis]

I have seen all that stuff. And that is just dust in our eyes. The so called stealth system is nothing but the addition of the omni-blade. I could stealth behind an enemy as an infiltrator ( which should be the stealth class ) and punch the guy to his death. Difference now - i punch him with a blade. The so called customization of the weapons will probably be a choice of +5% dmg vs +3% RoF ( as it is with the 'awsomely' customization of the N5 parts in ME2 ). Sure you can now semi-customize your powers ( which is a +1 or 2 options for the power final stage from the 2 options is ME2 ), but the fact is your character still has a very limited amount of things to frekin customize. There's still the 5 active abilites and the 1 active bonus to increase. And i doubt the level system was changed in any way. And i still can't frekin cary more weapons of the same type with me that i can change depending on the moment situation. As for the scrip ... ROFL ... i've seen every trailer they showed so far and in 5 min of gameplay 2 were scripted cut-scenes. So no ... i guess this is in no way as scripted as ME2 was which was just as scripted as the frekin CoD series. Shoot 5 enemies, get a cutscene, shoot another 5 get another cutscene. As for exploration ... the irony is they said exploration is back and they were looking at the landscape in the background ... so while i wish to imagine that i will explore i think that's as far as exploration will go - looking at the background. In order to have actual exploration you actualy need to have a more opened world gameplay not a scripted coridor run. As for the kinect part - thats what they showed so far, but i also remember they said that kinect will come with many additional 'cool' options. I only hope you are right on this one. But the past is somehow pushing me to belive something else.

Edited by Anubis, 09 June 2011 - 13:13.

[General]

Pav:3d, on 2 Jun 2011, 23:49, said:

Garus sneaking behind a Cerberus, or is it garus followingacerberuscozhesbetrayedshepardholyshit?!

Pretty low chance, Cerberus is a human thing and every non human joined Cerberus 'just' because of Shephard, otherwise they shouldn't.
But Garrus is a perfectionist, so its possible.

[Pav:3d]

^Lols I was just kidding His new armour looks great tho. Anubis what are you looking for in ME3?

[Anubis]

Pav:3d, on 9 Jun 2011, 17:15, said:

^Lols I was just kidding His new armour looks great tho. Anubis what are you looking for in ME3?

And RPG, not a scripted to it's bones shooter with some semi-semi-rpg elements. I have so many shooters to chose from that ME3 will only add to their numbers. And if they write RPG on it, and then send it to compete with other rpgs, the i expect a god damn RPG .

[Sgt. Rho]

ME never felt like a real RPG in the first place, but like a shooter with a lot more depth than average and RPG elements. To me anyway, but I only play as soldier

@General: Garrus there, and Liara in the background, are going to shoot that Cerberus guy in just a second

Edited by Sgt. Rho, 09 June 2011 - 18:13.

[Pav:3d]

You ONLY play as soldier? You are missing out on a tonne of great gameplay opportunities.

[Sgt. Rho]

Well, I did play as Vangard twice, was nice to slam into that guy right across the purgatory past a YMIR mech, but that wasn't enough Dakka

[Anubis]

Try playn as a Sentinel and once you reach the collector ship mission chose the machine gun specialization. Tech Armor + Biotic Abilities + Machine Gun = Win from there on . And you could also try modding the Coalesced file in your ME2/Biogame/Config/PC/Cooked folder. You can create some pretty cool weapon combinations .

[Sgt. Rho]

I prefer to take the Widow AM rifle at the collector ship.

[Raven]

Same here...Widow for me n Legion. The Harbinger guys can be taken down with 1 shot each from legion n me.

[Raven]

I hope you guys saw this. Pretty Epic IMO.