Hardware HALP!
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
My computer has been acting strangely for a long time but it seems to be getting worse. And I'm sick of it, so I turn to you guys for help. I think my comp has some kind of hardware problem.
It happens when I play games uninterrupted for an extended period of time. This can range from 1 hour to three hours at most. It most often occurs while playing MW2 but it's not specific to games since it's happened during Black Ops, Mass Effect 1 and 2 and others as well. What happens is that suddenly while playing, the screen freezes for one half to about ten seconds, then the computer simply shuts off the power and the monitor displays the same thing it would do as when you'd do a hard kill of the computer, namely displaying that the display port doesn't experience any signal output. Sometimes Skype convos I have on still work during the freezing period, but of course not anymore when the computer is shut off. I used the NVIDIA on-board temperature monitor to check the temperature right after rebooting; this is between 76 and 85 degrees. When idle, the temperature is 71 degrees. Fans all seem to be working fine.
I think it may be either the power supply or the monitor but I have no evidence for either and tbh the computer runs flawlessly when it doesn't do the weird crash thingy. I don't really feel like buying a whole new computer when it seems to me it's probably just one component that is malfunctioning.
I also tried a 3DMark test, during which the graphics tests got seemingly good results while the CPU tests ran at 0-1 FPS. I don't know if this is normal and I didn't understand anything of what the program told me after that, and I don't know if a faulty CPU means that I can run everything flawlessly except games for longer periods of time and then get a crash like that.
My specs are:
OS: win XP
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 @ 2.40 GHz
Mem: 2032 MB RAM
DX: 9.0c
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Mem: 640 MB
Please halp!
It happens when I play games uninterrupted for an extended period of time. This can range from 1 hour to three hours at most. It most often occurs while playing MW2 but it's not specific to games since it's happened during Black Ops, Mass Effect 1 and 2 and others as well. What happens is that suddenly while playing, the screen freezes for one half to about ten seconds, then the computer simply shuts off the power and the monitor displays the same thing it would do as when you'd do a hard kill of the computer, namely displaying that the display port doesn't experience any signal output. Sometimes Skype convos I have on still work during the freezing period, but of course not anymore when the computer is shut off. I used the NVIDIA on-board temperature monitor to check the temperature right after rebooting; this is between 76 and 85 degrees. When idle, the temperature is 71 degrees. Fans all seem to be working fine.
I think it may be either the power supply or the monitor but I have no evidence for either and tbh the computer runs flawlessly when it doesn't do the weird crash thingy. I don't really feel like buying a whole new computer when it seems to me it's probably just one component that is malfunctioning.
I also tried a 3DMark test, during which the graphics tests got seemingly good results while the CPU tests ran at 0-1 FPS. I don't know if this is normal and I didn't understand anything of what the program told me after that, and I don't know if a faulty CPU means that I can run everything flawlessly except games for longer periods of time and then get a crash like that.
My specs are:
OS: win XP
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 @ 2.40 GHz
Mem: 2032 MB RAM
DX: 9.0c
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Mem: 640 MB
Please halp!
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
Alias 29 Jan 2011
Trust me, more memory can do wonders for stability.
Not to mention it costs about three beers these days to get a 2gb stick.
Not to mention it costs about three beers these days to get a 2gb stick.
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
There are RAM USB sticks? Oo
Even so though, it's can't just be the memory, right? It was fine half a year ago or so, and I'm not playing games that are younger than that. The games I played then didn't experience this crashing...
Edited by Chyros, 29 January 2011 - 13:10.
Even so though, it's can't just be the memory, right? It was fine half a year ago or so, and I'm not playing games that are younger than that. The games I played then didn't experience this crashing...
Edited by Chyros, 29 January 2011 - 13:10.
Alias 29 Jan 2011
Eh, I never said it was USB.
No, it's not likely to be just the memory but there is really no reason these days to have less than 4gb considering how cheap it is and it can contribute one of the greatest in terms of cost-to-performance.
Edited by Alias, 29 January 2011 - 13:24.
No, it's not likely to be just the memory but there is really no reason these days to have less than 4gb considering how cheap it is and it can contribute one of the greatest in terms of cost-to-performance.
Edited by Alias, 29 January 2011 - 13:24.
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
OK, I might take a look into those then.
Any other ideas what can be causing the crashes?
Any other ideas what can be causing the crashes?
Alias 29 Jan 2011
If you do end up getting memory and installing it, it would also probably be wise to give it a good clean inside.
Beyond that, I'm reasonably sure that it's probably just due to the age of the components you have, they're several years old now and computing parts do have really short operating lifetimes.
Beyond that, I'm reasonably sure that it's probably just due to the age of the components you have, they're several years old now and computing parts do have really short operating lifetimes.
CJ 29 Jan 2011
I had the same problem with my HP, and after a while the monitor wasn't detecting the PC at all, turns out the graphic card was screwed.
Also 71° on idle is over the normal temperature, I usually have between 50 and 60°, I only reach 70-80 when playing...
Also 71° on idle is over the normal temperature, I usually have between 50 and 60°, I only reach 70-80 when playing...
BeefJeRKy 29 Jan 2011
Try downloading the Ubuntu live disc and run a memtest86 test. If there is a problem with your RAM it will find it. There should be a similar test for CPUs but I am unsure ATM.
Destiny 29 Jan 2011
Might be a problem with the battery on the mobo...BIOS battery was it? Got a few hardware fanatics 'round me that says a bad BIOS battery can screw your PC up.
ΓΛPTΘΓ 29 Jan 2011
Any idea what PSU you have on it? As PSU gets older, it does sometimes lose their output level. If it is crap, then it is known that crap PSU likes to kill computer anyway.
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
Alias, on 29 Jan 2011, 16:19, said:
If you do end up getting memory and installing it, it would also probably be wise to give it a good clean inside.
Beyond that, I'm reasonably sure that it's probably just due to the age of the components you have, they're several years old now and computing parts do have really short operating lifetimes.
Beyond that, I'm reasonably sure that it's probably just due to the age of the components you have, they're several years old now and computing parts do have really short operating lifetimes.
CJ, on 29 Jan 2011, 16:19, said:
I had the same problem with my HP, and after a while the monitor wasn't detecting the PC at all, turns out the graphic card was screwed.
Also 71° on idle is over the normal temperature, I usually have between 50 and 60°, I only reach 70-80 when playing...
Also 71° on idle is over the normal temperature, I usually have between 50 and 60°, I only reach 70-80 when playing...
Scope, on 29 Jan 2011, 17:12, said:
Try downloading the Ubuntu live disc and run a memtest86 test. If there is a problem with your RAM it will find it. There should be a similar test for CPUs but I am unsure ATM.
These are the results I got:
Is this good and/or normal?
Destiny, on 29 Jan 2011, 18:48, said:
Might be a problem with the battery on the mobo...BIOS battery was it? Got a few hardware fanatics 'round me that says a bad BIOS battery can screw your PC up.
ΓΛPTΘΓ, on 30 Jan 2011, 0:15, said:
Any idea what PSU you have on it? As PSU gets older, it does sometimes lose their output level. If it is crap, then it is known that crap PSU likes to kill computer anyway.
BeefJeRKy 29 Jan 2011
The CPU tests seem normal, and I don't think the BIOS battery is dead, or else your PC would have a hard time booting You could actually try removing it and reinserting it immediately.
And I still want to see those memtest results as it's pointing more and more to either a RAM problem or PSU. Or else it's just general aging of your system though it isn't THAT old. My 5 year old PC is working quite nicely for my brother and all I ever did was clean it and upgrade the graphics two years ago.
And I still want to see those memtest results as it's pointing more and more to either a RAM problem or PSU. Or else it's just general aging of your system though it isn't THAT old. My 5 year old PC is working quite nicely for my brother and all I ever did was clean it and upgrade the graphics two years ago.
Chyros 29 Jan 2011
Yeah I'll get on that memtest as well, though not today as I'm falling asleep atm .
ΓΛPTΘΓ 30 Jan 2011
I totally recommend you resit the CPU cooler if possible, I have a E6300 and it thermal throttle at around 70c (same core, different binned), with temperature averaging 80 something. There is certainly something wrong with the CPU.
PSU seems ok, but the CPU stress test result is terrible.
Test again with some real stress tester. Try Prime95 and OCCT. If they pass the normal test (doubt it will) try the Linpack test. Don't forget to run Everest (AIDA64) at the background to monitor the temperature.
The designed maximum running temperature for E6X00 is around 70c.
PSU seems ok, but the CPU stress test result is terrible.
Test again with some real stress tester. Try Prime95 and OCCT. If they pass the normal test (doubt it will) try the Linpack test. Don't forget to run Everest (AIDA64) at the background to monitor the temperature.
The designed maximum running temperature for E6X00 is around 70c.
Chyros 30 Jan 2011
I ran Prime95 and OCCT CPU and PSU/GPU tests: the core temperature was pretty stable at 51 degrees and GPU quickly rose to 90 degrees and remained there. I didn't know if it was going to melt my GPU or not so I aborted it after ten minutes. I used Realtemp to monitor the temperature.
I don't mind running these tests but I don't know what to look for and when to abort it, and they all keep saying blahblah danger blahblah so I get the feeling that if I run one of those tests for the full hour and then the thing melts I will only know it worked sometime before this and not that that was the actual thing that malfunctioned in the first place. Can someone shed some light on this?
I don't mind running these tests but I don't know what to look for and when to abort it, and they all keep saying blahblah danger blahblah so I get the feeling that if I run one of those tests for the full hour and then the thing melts I will only know it worked sometime before this and not that that was the actual thing that malfunctioned in the first place. Can someone shed some light on this?
ΓΛPTΘΓ 30 Jan 2011
None of those test pose any problem to a computer. Any computer should pass it without problems. The warning is for people who have overclocked their hardware and not tested it fully.