

8.9 Pacific Earthquake
#151
Posted 28 March 2011 - 23:13
Yeah, rebuilding is gonna be a bitch to do, especially when the entire area has a stagnated economy populated by fairly old folk. However, that process is going to be orders of magnitude more difficult if they've got a breach and possible full melt down under way. It'll never reach the Chernobyl levels of destruction due to astronomically stupid decisions prior to that disaster, but retarded Japanese response time, along with the general rigidity of Japanese laws will only worsen the nuclear situation.
#152
Posted 28 March 2011 - 23:49
1). Radiation has entered the food and water supply, meaning that the radiation is a bit more than just a "spike" in areas. It has spread farther and faster than the Japanese have anticipated.
2). The death toll has peaked over 18,000, and as clean-up is beginning and the search for survivors goes on, the death toll is only going to rise from there.

As I have heard on the radio this morning, Chernobyl levels of radiation have been surpassed. Perhaps not the devastation caused by radioactive material, but the sheer scope of the matter is quickly eclipsing such a monumental disaster.

#153
Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:30
According to wikipedia, some of the workers were receiving 2-6 sv at their ankles by standing in the radioactive water. Yeah, info is still patchy, but the whole thing is going down hill.
At least it's not on fire and spreading radiation across the entire continent. The totaly casualties from the Fukashima Daiischi accident is probably never gonna get to Chernobyl levels nor will the area of heavy contamination.
#154
Posted 07 April 2011 - 16:17

#155
Posted 07 April 2011 - 16:20
Also Mexico got hit by a 6.5
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011...ern-mexico.html
#157
Posted 07 April 2011 - 17:16

#158
Posted 07 April 2011 - 17:49
Sgt. Nuker, on 7 Apr 2011, 19:16, said:
*Looks out the window*
Well, no Horsemen yet.
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Imagine a group of people who are all blind, deaf and slightly demented and suddenly someone in the crowd asks, "What are we to do?"... The only possible answer is, "Look for a cure". Until you are cured, there is nothing you can do.
And since you don't believe you are sick, there can be no cure.
- Vladimir Solovyov

#160
Posted 07 April 2011 - 18:39


F O R T H E N S

#161
#162
Posted 07 April 2011 - 18:49
Sgt. Nuker, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:44, said:
The brave hide behind technology. The stupid hide from it. The clever have technology, and hide it.
—The Book of Cataclysm


#163
Posted 07 April 2011 - 18:57
#164
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:00
The brave hide behind technology. The stupid hide from it. The clever have technology, and hide it.
—The Book of Cataclysm


#165
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:07
TheDR, on 7 Apr 2011, 19:39, said:

Beginning of the end, get it now?

Also, I think everyone has the right to think and say loud that religions are complete nonsensical bullshit, Nooka.
Woops, thought this was LPTPW for a second, please excuse the off topicness.
Edited by CJ, 07 April 2011 - 19:09.
#166
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:16

Apparently the plates around Japan were under an extremely high amount of tension before all of this, I hope this is the last of the large movements that Japan sees for a long time.


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#167
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:22
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 21:16, said:

To be fair, in a way it was good that it happened in Japan if it had to happen SOMEWHERE. Don't get me wrong, it's a major tragedy of course, and deserves great mourning. But if an earthquake like that would've happened somewhere else where earthquakes do not happen every day, the death toll could've been in the hundreds of thousands instead of 20,000. No country has as much expertise and is as well prepared to deal with earthquakes as they are.
The brave hide behind technology. The stupid hide from it. The clever have technology, and hide it.
—The Book of Cataclysm


#168
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:25
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:22, said:
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 21:16, said:

To be fair, in a way it was good that it happened in Japan if it had to happen SOMEWHERE. Don't get me wrong, it's a major tragedy of course, and deserves great mourning. But if an earthquake like that would've happened somewhere else where earthquakes do not happen every day, the death toll could've been in the hundreds of thousands instead of 20,000. No country has as much expertise and is as well prepared to deal with earthquakes as they are.
... Are you fricking serious?
I mean, your argument holds the road from a logical point of view, but that sounds so wrong...
Edited by CJ, 07 April 2011 - 19:27.
#169
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:28
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:22, said:
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 21:16, said:

To be fair, in a way it was good that it happened in Japan if it had to happen SOMEWHERE. Don't get me wrong, it's a major tragedy of course, and deserves great mourning. But if an earthquake like that would've happened somewhere else where earthquakes do not happen every day, the death toll could've been in the hundreds of thousands instead of 20,000. No country has as much expertise and is as well prepared to deal with earthquakes as they are.
How true, the Haiti earthquake which killed over 100k was only 7.0 richter, this earthquake was 19x more powerful. In terms of earthquake proofing Japan is the most advanced and best equipped to deal with it in the world. Also it should be noted that there won't be another major earthquake on that fault until pressure builds back up, which takes years. However that doesn't mean you won't get smaller earthquakes from the fault system. Faults while often thought of as of a line, are a bit more complicated than that, usually a multi-branched web structure with several layers.
Edited by Ion Cannon!, 07 April 2011 - 19:30.
#170
Posted 07 April 2011 - 19:33
CJ, on 7 Apr 2011, 15:25, said:
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:22, said:
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 21:16, said:

To be fair, in a way it was good that it happened in Japan if it had to happen SOMEWHERE. Don't get me wrong, it's a major tragedy of course, and deserves great mourning. But if an earthquake like that would've happened somewhere else where earthquakes do not happen every day, the death toll could've been in the hundreds of thousands instead of 20,000. No country has as much expertise and is as well prepared to deal with earthquakes as they are.
... Are you fricking serious?
I mean, your argument holds the road from a logical point of view, but that sounds so wrong...
It doesn't sound wrong, Chyros is right. If there's going to be a catastrophic earthquake in a well populated area on Earth, Japan is probably the most capable of dealing with it.
Look at what just happened, a 7.1 Richter earthquake just hit Japan and they only lost power temporarily in the Northern part. Impressive.

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#171
Posted 07 April 2011 - 21:31
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 14:49, said:
I would answer you, however, this thread is not the place to discuss my beliefs on where the world is going, and how long we have. You may want to keep an eye on your PM box though.

#172
Posted 07 April 2011 - 22:39
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:33, said:
CJ, on 7 Apr 2011, 15:25, said:
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 20:22, said:
Ghostrider, on 7 Apr 2011, 21:16, said:

To be fair, in a way it was good that it happened in Japan if it had to happen SOMEWHERE. Don't get me wrong, it's a major tragedy of course, and deserves great mourning. But if an earthquake like that would've happened somewhere else where earthquakes do not happen every day, the death toll could've been in the hundreds of thousands instead of 20,000. No country has as much expertise and is as well prepared to deal with earthquakes as they are.
... Are you fricking serious?
I mean, your argument holds the road from a logical point of view, but that sounds so wrong...
It doesn't sound wrong, Chyros is right. If there's going to be a catastrophic earthquake in a well populated area on Earth, Japan is probably the most capable of dealing with it.
Look at what just happened, a 7.1 Richter earthquake just hit Japan and they only lost power temporarily in the Northern part. Impressive.
I must agree with Chyros, if it had to happen, Japan was possibly the best place for it to happen. Either there or perhaps San Francisco. Frankly, any country on the Ring of Fire is in a pretty strong position to deal with earthquakes or their immediate consequences, certainly better than if it were to hit somewhere such as Haiti. they're not prepared, their buildings aren't built to a certain standard to withstand quakes, they don't have the infrastructure etc. An unexpected disaster is always many times more deadly than an expected one.
Sgt. Nuker, on 7 Apr 2011, 22:31, said:
Chyros, on 7 Apr 2011, 14:49, said:
I would answer you, however, this thread is not the place to discuss my beliefs on where the world is going, and how long we have. You may want to keep an eye on your PM box though.
Note I too would be curious as to your perspective on this topic Nooka, its not one I often find time and/or people to discuss it with.
#173
Posted 07 April 2011 - 23:20
An earthquake is one thing. Nations along the "Ring of Fire" have learned to deal with earthquakes as much as human technology has allowed them to. Adding in a tsunami is a whole other matter. The force of water is immense, and there is no way to outrun a wave once it hits shore (unless you're far away from the coast). The earthquake wasn't what killed tens of thousands of people, the tsunami was. The earthquake only spread devastation.

#174
Posted 07 April 2011 - 23:54

#175
Posted 08 April 2011 - 06:47

Wasn't it something about the backup generators being placed in a pair of...what's the word? Holes? So that when the water flooded the facility, the backup generators where amongst the first things to shut down.
Edited by SquigPie, 08 April 2011 - 06:48.
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Imagine a group of people who are all blind, deaf and slightly demented and suddenly someone in the crowd asks, "What are we to do?"... The only possible answer is, "Look for a cure". Until you are cured, there is nothing you can do.
And since you don't believe you are sick, there can be no cure.
- Vladimir Solovyov

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