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[Kichō]

My first political topic in this forum, so please be nice.

Its that time where the largest political party in the world with 80 million members and going, celebrates its 90th birthday today (albeit earlier) will there be changes such as reforms? will it finally do something about its human rights record? will it finally stop suppressing people? will it finally stop caring about North Korea so much? will it finally be a much more responsible member of the UN Security Council?

My real question is that, will it eventually weaken, or grow stronger?

I'm really interested in what other people say/think, so please share.

If this needs to be locked, then I understand.

[Wizard]

 Kichō, on 1 Jul 2011, 10:17, said:

My real question is that, will it eventually weaken, or grow stronger?

Do you mean China or the CCP? Answer is very specific to my repsonse.

[Kichō]

Mainly the CCP.

Edited by Kichō, 01 July 2011 - 10:19.

[Wizard]

I do not see how the CCP can grow stronger if it intends to continue with economic expansion? Allowing foreign investment, corporations and products into China will ultimately lead to a dilution of the communist ethic, imo. This anniversary may well see it gain strength temporarily, but ultimately I believe China will adopt a democratic or pseudo democratic system in the end.

[Alias]

Considering the economic route they have taken since Deng, they may as well be called the Chinese Capitalist Party.

I do think as China continues to grow as the US wilts away that as they become top dog they will definitely need to pick up their game as all eyes will be upon them. I do think as the next generation of leadership comes through they will continue to take a more liberalised approach.

[Kichō]

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I do not see how the CCP can grow stronger if it intends to continue with economic expansion? Allowing foreign investment, corporations and products into China will ultimately lead to a dilution of the communist ethic

All political parties have their strengths and weaknesses, economic expansion is one of the CCPs strengths, especially now as they overtook Japan as the second largest economy. The biggest challenge they have right now is to combat inflation whilst keeping the Yuan balanced as foreign governments feel the Yuan is being manipulated.

In another way, the CCP embraces foreign companies, investment and products into the country because its good for both China and participating countries. (Infact I could probably name at least one company that is doing well in another country whilst being poor in another)

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a dilution of the communist ethic

This depends on how you view Communism today? I mean the CCP is Communism in name only now ever since they started the market reforms and introducing the 'Opening Up' policy. If they didn't introduce those they probably wouldn't of even think allowing foreign enterprises and such into the country.

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but ultimately I believe China will adopt a democratic or pseudo democratic system in the end.

There were debates on how a Confucianism Democracy or a Socialist Democracy would work but wasn't touched upon much. The current only way for people where they can vote for is local government chiefs and 'village leaders' in a bid to weed out corruption which plagues the CCP alot.

The Premier often talked about Demoracy in interviews and how it would work, he even admired the Japanese system where only one party was in control, those broadcasts were mostly censored in China, except from one which they allowed to be aired on state media. (or at least allowed it to be shown in Britain from their offices in London and Beijing)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-27/c...democracy-.html
http://tvnewswatch.blogspot.com/2010/10/wh...remier-wen.html

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Considering the economic route they have taken since Deng, they may as well be called the Chinese Capitalist Party.

Theoretically yes, but the key difference is that its state controlled.

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I do think as China continues to grow as the US wilts away that as they become top dog

Politically, maybe. The big question is that do people trust China because of its differences?