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[Chyros]

PacSpook, on 31 October 2018 - 08:10, said:

619 Tiny Llamas?

CAAAAARRRRRRLLLLLLLLLL?

[CJ]

General, on 31 October 2018 - 04:17, said:

CJ, on 31 October 2018 - 01:53, said:

Spooky General, on 30 October 2018 - 16:20, said:

I wish i had enough money to get console and games. Too expensive in here. So fuck pc master race, i dont want to update my pc every year only to see it get lagged because of badly optimized games

Also, i want to play Dad of War damnit!

That's the most stupid argument ever.
I'm still running the same CPU I got in 2012 and it's not failed to handle anything I threw at it. All I ever replaced on it was the GPU, and even then it costs way less to upgrade that for 150€ every 4 years than it is to upgrade consoles (ps3/xbox 360 to ps4/xbone to ps4 pro/xbone whatever)
People who say stuff like that are either idiots who think laptops qualify as gaming rigs, or people who got ripped off and bough bad parts because they didn't search beforehand (we got a lot of those in Tunisia, people who think all nVidias are the same, and that any nvidia is better than any amd/intel)

People who talk without knowing other countries' economy are also complete idiots. A PS4 is currently 2000tl here (I get 1700tl in a month) where new PS4 games start at 350tl. A processor starts at around 2000tl and graphic card is around 1500tl (lowest grades which worth upgrading) they go as far as to 10.000 tl. Also games are much chepaer on PC thanks to Steam. If i wanted to get retail version i will have to pay minimum 2.5x more for no other reason than greedy sellers (which our country is full of)
So, if i wanted to get a good graphic card and processor, i will have to save money for like 5 years(well, i have to eat in the meantime)
Meanwhile a PS4 doesnt need upgrading and unlike some PC games, you can play it fine without upgrading or having to deal with lowering graphic settings which will make game look a lot worse.

Conclusion: BOTH are expensive as fuck here. But at the moment it is more profitable for me to stay on PC because games are MUCH cheaper and my rig can run them at low-mid settings or even high on some goodly optimized ones. But to play a game like Dad of War or Last of Us 2 (assuming they release it in same quality for PC) i will have to spend like 3x more than i should spend for a console just to play them decently.


So, you see, even on non-sale state(200 tl) pc games are 3x cheaper. Minimum wage in Turkey is 1600tl (290$ it was 240$ a month ago, money value constantly changes againist dollar but prices stays the same, at their fucking highest, thankfully, not on steam)

You seem to forget Tunisia is in a much worse state economically than Turkey. Also that now is not the time to look at GPU prices because of the whole crypto craze still being alive (even if barely).

350 dinars (672 liras) is the minimal wage here, I personally work a dead end 40hr call center job which drove me madder for a ridiculous pay of 550 dinars (1050 liras or 170€).
And our terrorist government is hell bent of destroying the economy to help erdogan because of him being a muslim terrorist like them, we're importing everything from turkey (without export taxes), so the prices of all things from food to electronics are pretty much the same as the ones in turkey, with a third of the wage

Note on games : Between piracy being so easy on pc, and the enourmous amount of sales (steam, origin, uplay, and battlenet), I've been spending less than 30€ a year on games, which would maybe get me a single PS* game if I bought it legit because of their prices.

Also here's the price for the same game you showed here, we get to pay the same as the US (I actually used a turkish vpn a couple times to get the prices to be actually affordable) :


Also old PS4 games (that's 500 liras btw):

Edited by CJ, 31 October 2018 - 09:11.

[General]

PacSpook, on 31 October 2018 - 08:12, said:

619 Tiny Llamas?

619 Tiny Llamas?

No, Turkish Llamas.


Also CJ, WEN REBEL!?
We work for around 1$ an hour. Can i have some shoes? But seriously, i need a new one!

Edited by General, 31 October 2018 - 11:08.

[Destiny]

I would earn approx. 7900 Turkish liras a month...?

Come join the Singapore Armed Forces! (no idea if you actually can). Free food, free lodging (confinement, stoppage of leave, overseas deployments, other etc. punishments), etc...but what the fuck man, earning S$426 a month in Turkey? That's frigging terrible. The Middle East is bad D;

[General]

426$? Thats a lot! I get 300 Thankfully my parents gave me one of their houses so i can survive with the minimum wage just fine. It is impossible to survive with minimum wage while paying rents (in Istanbul)

[Alias]

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

Edited by Alias, 31 October 2018 - 12:01.

[General]

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

Yes, cost of living is cheaper here compared to yours but let us not forget the living standards are also a lot worse here
Also if i had to pay rent, i had to give atleast 1000tl(reminding that minimum wage is 1600tl and around 200-300 tl a month will go to electricity, water taxes and also internet, i am not counting the monthly gas price which is minimum 100 tl in winter to heat a room, if you wanna heat the full apartment it will go up to 300 tl or more) for a bad apartment here. So, after paying rent and taxes, you see, i have no money left to buy food!
I see why people are so eager to marry early here now.

Oh and our mighty leader gets 75.000 tl a month

Edited by General, 31 October 2018 - 12:45.

[Destiny]

Wow, civilians sure get paid a lot. A$8000, what the money is going on here lieutenant. Man, you must be goooooood at your job...but seriously, A$2000 rent a month? Do they make you live in the White House of Australia or something?

General, on 31 October 2018 - 11:43, said:

426$? Thats a lot! I get 300 Thankfully my parents gave me one of their houses so i can survive with the minimum wage just fine. It is impossible to survive with minimum wage while paying rents (in Istanbul)

Google said 1700tl is $426 so...

[Chyros]

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

[General]

Destiny, on 31 October 2018 - 12:56, said:

Google said 1700tl is $426 so...

1$ = 5.5TL currently. It was around 7TL 2 months ago and 3.5TL 4 months ago. So yeah, Google probably didn't catch up with how fast our economy got fucked

Chyros, on 31 October 2018 - 13:28, said:

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

Just your round? He can feed entire Istanbul with that money.

Edited by General, 31 October 2018 - 13:43.

[Destiny]

That's why we need more dosh.

[TheDR]

Chyros, on 31 October 2018 - 13:28, said:

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

Stop spending it on keyboards

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

Chyros, you seen this?

[General]

Night cents.

[TheDR]

NaNoWriMo begins tomorrow!

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

Some kind of ritual!?

[TheDR]

Yeah, basically D:

[Chyros]

Sounds evil.

Probably those evil writer people.

[TheDR]

Skull speed!

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

No.

[TheDR]

Goodbye!

[General]

Good mornin!

[Alias]

Chyros, on 31 October 2018 - 13:28, said:

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

If I see you in Europe somewhere I'll buy you every round, not paying $12 for a pint here when I can get a 0,5L in Germany for 1 Euro

Edited by Alias, 01 November 2018 - 07:52.

[Chyros]

PacSpook, on 31 October 2018 - 19:53, said:

Chyros, you seen this?

Most interesting. I thought his feature length film was going to be called "Meadow Man" but I guess this'll do . Wondering what he's going to come up with!

Alias, on 01 November 2018 - 07:51, said:

Chyros, on 31 October 2018 - 13:28, said:

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

If I see you in Europe somewhere I'll buy you every round, not paying $12 for a pint here when I can get a 0,5L in Germany for 1 Euro

Not to mention it'd be Aussie pipiwasser .

[Alias]

Chyros, on 01 November 2018 - 08:11, said:

Alias, on 01 November 2018 - 07:51, said:

Chyros, on 31 October 2018 - 13:28, said:

Alias, on 31 October 2018 - 11:58, said:

And I would get ~30000 lira/month (~8000 AUD).
That's not even high for my field of work, if I were to slightly change field I could add another 30% onto that :S.

Comparatively, minimum wage would be around 10000 lira/month for full time work, but rent would take out almost half of that...

Sure puts worldwide inequality in the spotlight, but cost of living here is probably a similar factor over the cost of living there, with my rent being around 6000 lira (2000 AUD) month for a 1 bedroom apartment.

You're buying my next round.

If I see you in Europe somewhere I'll buy you every round, not paying $12 for a pint here when I can get a 0,5L in Germany for 1 Euro

Not to mention it'd be Aussie pipiwasser .

Indeed.

I mostly buy German or Belgian beer here, although you pay through the nose for the good shit.