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Warbz's Photo Warbz 29 Dec 2007

I know most planets vary greatly in size but this was a bit of an eye opener.
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pretty shocking, how vast the difference actually is.
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Soul's Photo Soul 29 Dec 2007

Holy shit D:D .
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Jazzie Spurs's Photo Jazzie Spurs 29 Dec 2007

Holy shit, yeah, I cannot agree more.
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Whitey's Photo Whitey 29 Dec 2007

Bah. So what? There's no point in comparing us to anything size-wise. There are things many times smaller than us too, don't forget that.
Edited by Boidy, 29 December 2007 - 20:28.
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TheDR's Photo TheDR 29 Dec 2007

we are small.
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Sgt. Nuker's Photo Sgt. Nuker 29 Dec 2007

View PostBoidy, on 29 Dec 2007, 15:18, said:

Bah. So what? There's no point in comparing us to anything size-wise. There are things many times smaller than us too, don't forget that.


That's not his point. But meh, what do you care.

For those of us that do actually have a mind to care, that's a rather humbling sight to see.


Regards,

Nuker
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Rich19's Photo Rich19 29 Dec 2007

That isn't even the biggest. Watch this - http://newsizeofourworld.ytmnd.com/
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Chyros's Photo Chyros 29 Dec 2007

I saw this before but the sight remains humbling. A similar scale-awesomeness is downwards, to nucleon/quark scale. But that's a whole different story.

To anyone interested in things like this topic, I recommend reading A short history of nearly everything by Bill Bryson. It is a book written in casual style, understandable to everyone, with tons of interesting facts about all aspects of science, including astronomy, physics, geology, biology and chemistry.
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Rich19's Photo Rich19 29 Dec 2007

View PostChyros, on 29 Dec 2007, 22:31, said:

To anyone interested in things like this topic, I recommend reading A short history of nearly everything by Bill Bryson. It is a book written in casual style, understandable to everyone, with tons of interesting facts about all aspects of science, including astronomy, physics, geology, biology and chemistry.


Indeed. I could not recommend that book more for someone interested in the subject.
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 29 Dec 2007

Size of electron - point like (it treated as having no dimensions)
Size of large red supergiant Antares 10^11m.

But the most amazing thing of all, the human race, us have found ways fo explaining them, predicting how they move, and even producing versions of them in a lab.
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Alias's Photo Alias 31 Dec 2007

Trivia:
Pluto is now longer not considered a full size planet, but rather a dwarf planet.
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Cryptkeeper's Photo Cryptkeeper 31 Dec 2007

yah I know scales like this are crazy the universe is much bigger too then all of these in fact in my theory its infinite but thats another thing all togather
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Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 31 Dec 2007

I read that if Sol (the sun) was replaced by VY Canis Majoris, the star would reach out past the orbit of Saturn. Very humbling indeed.
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Rayburn's Photo Rayburn 31 Dec 2007

For some reason, this makes me think of The Galaxy Song from Monty Phyton's The Meaning of Life :D
"Makes you feel so insignificant, doesn't it?"
"Yeah, yeah......Can we have your liver then?"


I've always been aware of that but this makes it clear: For the universe, we ARE small and "small" is still too big as a word.
The universe is so incredibly huge that there must be other life out there...Where'd be the point in wasting so much space if there's only us?
Edited by Rayburn, 31 December 2007 - 08:51.
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 31 Dec 2007

UNiverse is at least, call it 27.4 Billion light years across (spherically), The solar system containing planets + dwarf planets (Pluto, Ceres & Sedna) + Oort Cloud + Kupier Belt, about 1 - 3 light years.

Humans have shifted about 250,000 miles in space, thats tiny!
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Areze's Photo Areze 31 Dec 2007

When there are fireballs the size of galaxies destroying almost anything they touch, you start to feel small and insignificant.
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 31 Dec 2007

Where are these?

Seriously show me one, the Milky Way isn't a big galaxy and its 100,000ly across (IIIRC), bear in mind if you filled the solar system with water that would form a black hole so a star that huge would be something to behold.
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Warbz's Photo Warbz 31 Dec 2007

View PostAlias, on 31 Dec 2007, 2:50, said:

Trivia:
Pluto is now longer not considered a full size planet, but rather a dwarf planet.


IMO pluto is just a pebble in comparison to the other planets. lol
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Areze's Photo Areze 26 Jan 2008

View PostDauth, on 31 Dec 2007, 5:47, said:

Where are these?

Seriously show me one, the Milky Way isn't a big galaxy and its 100,000ly across (IIIRC), bear in mind if you filled the solar system with water that would form a black hole so a star that huge would be something to behold.

Do you mean the fireball thing? I read the article loong ago. I might be able to find it though. May have been on this forum.
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 26 Jan 2008

Yea I mean the fireball thingy, it doesn't half interest me the sources for these sorta thing.
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 26 Jan 2008

Its a star formation cluster, moving at a huge rate, cool thing to have spotted.
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NergiZed's Photo NergiZed 18 Feb 2008

That's pretty cool stuff.

Here's an animated gif of this kind of stuff.

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It's got Canis Majoris in it, which I believe is truely the biggest star ever discovered so far.
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Medve's Photo Medve 18 Feb 2008

Well that's obvious. And now we say that the farthest discovered quasar is 18,8 billion ly away. That's even bigger. And Dauth: me and my physics mad friend are going to make a wonderful new way to find out the place where a quasar f.e. has gone in the time its light reached us. I hope you understand this :loels:. 2 problems are present:

1.: It's very hard to make because of the fact that the Hubble constant always changes the speed of the growing of the universe. The constant changes too slowly. Trust me, we're good at maths, but this will require immense skill. Maybe this exists, but then we find it out ourselves. And either way, we come to the second problem:

2.: Our distance measuring using the lights spectrums doesn't worth a watch. It says that all the galaxies emmit the same amount of light, which is impossible because then there would be impossibly big objects. This is going to go to MSN I feel.

Medve
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Dauth's Photo Dauth 18 Feb 2008

Ok very confused here,

Quasar f.e. ?

I'm good at maths, I have a reasonable grasp of Tensor notaion, and moderate skills at Matricies, however the jump between me and the people who understand this stuff properly is probably as big as the jump between me and someone who can just perform 2 + 2.

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It says that all the galaxies emmit the same amount of light, which is impossible because then there would be impossibly big objects.


No, It merely assumes that objects emit light in the same manner (ie a star at 5000K here is the same as one at 5000k there)

Type 1A supernovae are special and worth a section in my corner of science.

Essentially over 1.4 Solar masses a neutron start forms from a supernova, below that you get a white dwarf. Should a binary system be a white dwarf and a normal star and the white dwarf is accreting matter from the normal star, eventaully it will supernova. These supernovae all have similar properties and this is how we measure distances. (Using the Hubble law, but a very advanced version)
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