

God
#1
Posted 16 May 2008 - 16:05


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#3
Posted 16 May 2008 - 17:30
2) Time
@Topic
Far too much of an atheist for this to occupy my thoughts
#4
Posted 16 May 2008 - 19:29


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#5
Posted 16 May 2008 - 19:33
religious people say "god created earth and the universe..."
scientists say "that´s bullcrap! at first there was nothing, and that nothing exploded, what formed the universe..."
so i cant decide what´s more silly...

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#6
Posted 16 May 2008 - 20:49


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#7
Posted 16 May 2008 - 20:54

Edited by G-sus, 16 May 2008 - 20:54.

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#8
Posted 16 May 2008 - 21:31
Have you ever watched a glass fall and have the time stretch out in front of you?
Or a project to be completed and the time disappears to nought?
Giving a creature control over time is ludicrous since time does not exist, it is an interpretation of something far more complex.
#9
Posted 17 May 2008 - 11:26


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#10
Posted 17 May 2008 - 11:30
There are 4 spacetime dimensions these are not equivalent to x,y,z,t this only really becomes apparent with extended study tho.
#11
Posted 17 May 2008 - 12:49


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#12
Posted 18 May 2008 - 11:26



Go dtiomsaÃtear do chód gan earráidÃ, is go gcrÃochnaÃtear do chláir go réidh. -Old Irish proverb
#13
Posted 19 May 2008 - 12:12
CodeCat, on 18 May 2008, 12:26, said:

That's what I'm trying to say, not that there is a 4th dimension that is.....Well, let's put it like this, I'm saying that 4D space is just time, it's not a physical dimension. 4D beings would exist in 3D space and would but would be able to interact with the 4th dimension and therefore would be able to move throug time+ space.


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#14
Posted 19 May 2008 - 13:49
http://en.wikipedia....cell-simple.gif
That is a 3-dimensional rendering (2 of space since the image is flat, and 1 of time) of an object in 5-dimensional space (4 of space, 1 of time).


Go dtiomsaÃtear do chód gan earráidÃ, is go gcrÃochnaÃtear do chláir go réidh. -Old Irish proverb
#15
Posted 19 May 2008 - 19:02


[indent]Garrod "Newtype Killer" Ran[/indent]
#16
Posted 19 May 2008 - 19:19


Go dtiomsaÃtear do chód gan earráidÃ, is go gcrÃochnaÃtear do chláir go réidh. -Old Irish proverb
#17
Posted 19 May 2008 - 23:11
CodeCat, on 19 May 2008, 13:49, said:

That is a 3-dimensional rendering (2 of space since the image is flat, and 1 of time) of an object in 5-dimensional space (4 of space, 1 of time).
Not that I don't understand anything else you posted(I do), but that is an awesome looking animation.
Edited by Dr. Strangelove, 19 May 2008 - 23:12.


#18
Posted 20 May 2008 - 11:58
CodeCat, on 19 May 2008, 20:19, said:
LISTEN, this applies to OUR universe, I won't say I know anything about any other universe because I don't know shit! Dude, this applies to our universe and our universe only! I know there can be different dimensions but not in THIS universe. Okay, stay on topic, we're talking about a 4D being as powerful as kami (God), because it can interact with time in OUR universe.


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#19
Posted 20 May 2008 - 14:07
For the final time, there are 4 spacetime dimensions, and by adding energy to a particle or system you can manipulate any of them, the only problem is the energy required is so high.
There is a distinct chance of more dimensions, have a look at gravitons if you want.
TIME DOES NOT EXIST! We just perceive it.
#20
Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:13
Another idea of mine: The time fridge. Fuck cooling your food, just throw it into a container that had time stopped inside it. Presto, always fresh food.
Also, I think Dauth and code are disagreeing here. Code was just getting at Tsu's use of 4th...... Dauth has a whole new view it seems...... Care to explain why time does not exist Dauth?
@ original question: Yes, any being that can control time would be godlike. I always fancied the idea that any god that does exist is just the first person send faster than light.... he became light, and then lost all meaning of time, and as such could be everywhere at one time. That would be a god for ya.
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If I were an alien from a distant world, unhampered by the endless void of space for whatever reason, I would stay the hell away from these primitive, monkey-like creatures from Earth who are too busy slaughtering each other over subjects such as religion or ethnicity, who pollute their one and only planet and who praise mindless pop-culture personalities more than scientists and philosophers.
#21
Posted 23 May 2008 - 08:56
We live in a very good approximation to a FRW universe, which can be described by the Minkowski 4-vector.
(ct, x, y, z) which has the identity value (1, -1, -1, -1) depending on definitions.
Box, (Pyrobob) show me evidence of time that cannot be explained as the low energy FRW regime, because I've already seen evidence of force bosons.
#22
Posted 24 May 2008 - 04:06
As for this argument, I agree with dauth, but not knowing what the FWR universe is, and being too lazy to wiki it....
Anyway, time does exist, but not as a dimension. I think that is dauth's point, and I rather have to agree with him......
Yay first comment! Thank you Comr4de!

If I were an alien from a distant world, unhampered by the endless void of space for whatever reason, I would stay the hell away from these primitive, monkey-like creatures from Earth who are too busy slaughtering each other over subjects such as religion or ethnicity, who pollute their one and only planet and who praise mindless pop-culture personalities more than scientists and philosophers.
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