105 replies to this topic

[Wizard]

C. Boidy, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:39, said:

You bloody suckup, you know what is being discussed is that the staff might just be in the wrong. It does happen, even to the best of us.

Boidy, less of that. Ajpod is entitled to his opinion

[Libains]

Unnecessary sarcasm and slight malicious intent - anyways as posted above it was the tip of the iceberg - a catalyst if you will. It was not that post alone.

BTW, fun fact, did you know that orange, red and yellow are the colours most likely to provoke anger?! I propose all staff change to purple, global mods to pink, and admin to lillac!

~AjPod

[Strategia]

And here's me thinking that was directed at me

[Whitey]

@Wizard You're right, I'm a tad fired up about the issue. My apologies.

Then again, "suckup" is hardly insulting when it is something that everyone does to get by in life.

-Boidy

Edited by C. Boidy, 05 June 2008 - 23:43.

[E.V.E.]

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:39, said:

AjPod, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:36, said:

IMO - it's really his own fault - the last post was over-the-top and hence it resulted in a warning level increase - whether the person knew this increase would lead to a suspension is his/her problem. SImple fact, he could have been un-suspended, but he wasn't. Hence - the staff etc have decided that he will remain so, and it is his problem for getting two warnings. There not really much that will be done to change this - so how's about a reduced sentence of one week - it still has effect and yet will bring him back sooner. That's my little addition.

No sides taken, btw.

~AjPod

How was this over the top? It was hardly flaming.

That post was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Again, it wasn't the only Reason.

- E.V.E.

[Whitey]

I'd like to see the other straws, please?

-Boidy

[Libains]

C. Boidy, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:39, said:

@AjPod You bloody suckup, you know what is being discussed is that the staff might just be in the wrong. It does happen, even to the best of us.

"In Topic: The Wat Thread
This fad is worst than Kacen"

Is that all too over the top, by the way? I should think not. The fad is pretty terrible.

-Boidy

Firstly, everyone makes mistakes - I've said that a lot recently. As I pointed out several times I'm on neither side - i proposed a reduced sentence.

Secondly, apology accepted - we all get worked up and I'm sorry if that was how you felt as to what I posted.

Thirdly, that's spammy yummy, almost anything goes!

Fourth, I never try to suckup to people - prevents me from having my opinion.

Peace.

~AjPod

[G-sus]

D:
this topic is failing hard.
as the usual "you mods/admins did an error (or were unjust), CORRECT THAT"-topics...

*it doesnt matter*
stuff wont be changed, and this topic (and the others like that) is doing nothin more than an unneccesary ruckus in the forums.

[Hobbesy]

E.V.E., on 5 Jun 2008, 18:45, said:

That post was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Again, it wasn't the only Reason.

- E.V.E.

So.... A non-flammatory post which criticized the staff got him banned? That dosen't sound like the best of reasons.

Edited by Høbbesy, 05 June 2008 - 23:48.

[Libains]

G-sus, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:46, said:

D:
this topic is failing hard.
as the usual "you mods/admins did an error (or were unjust), CORRECT THAT"-topics...

*it doesnt matter*
stuff wont be changed, and this topic (and the others like that) is doing nothin more than an unneccesary ruckus in the forums.

Quoted For the massive, unavoidable truth, although it's interesting to watch this unfold - it's a very passionate subject for some.

[CodeCat]

C. Boidy, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:45, said:

I'd like to see the other straws, please?

-Boidy

Here you go:

Chris, on 5 Jun 2008, 11:11, said:

@ Mom leaving you: *mourns at so called awesome American Culture* Whats up with american parents this days?!

Quote

Westerner's are stupid and racist towards the middle east and asia.....Now lets see if someone gets offended by this post.

Chris, on 23 Feb 2008, 6:50, said:

Screw america, I'll rather live in Canada than America since there are far less stupid people in Canada.

EDIT: Sorry if this is offensive to the americans.

Chris, on 1 Mar 2008, 4:37, said:

The US Government (especially the US Army) is the modern Age Nazis! /Anti-American

No offense to any american's here.

[Strategia]

AjPod, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:45, said:

As I pointed out several times I'm on neither side - i proposed a reduced sentence.

If I may ask: why? Why give this one member a reduced sentence? Why give him special treatment?

[Soul]

I've decided to stay the hell out of this as it's going to get worse before it gets better and is starting to become a flame war.

[E.V.E.]

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:48, said:

E.V.E., on 5 Jun 2008, 18:45, said:

That post was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Again, it wasn't the only Reason.

- E.V.E.

So.... A non-flammatory post which criticized the staff got him banned? That dosen't sound like the best of reasons.

You should know that we could have actually banned him alot earlier, but we turned a blind eye.

- E.V.E.

[Hobbesy]

CodeCat, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:49, said:

Here you go:
*stuff*

But, didn't he also say "No offense to any Americans here."?

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:52, said:

CodeCat, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:49, said:

Here you go:
*stuff*

But, didn't he also say "No offense to any Americans here."?

But didn't I also say "no offesnse?"

P.S. I am not defending my original post, I did word it very badly, I am just saying to make a point.

Edited by Bob, 05 June 2008 - 23:55.

[CodeCat]

And do you really think that diminishes the intended message?

[Whitey]

#1 It's an existing problem in modern American society. I'd have criticized him on the comment myself if I didn't know that it was actually true. Not to be political, but the U.S. is plagued by incapable parents.

#2 The topic was perfectly appropriate for it, as offensive as it was. It did test the idea of whether those that supported the topic were hypocrites.

#3 and #4 are bad. But I've seen worse out of numerous other members here. I'd support a warn on this, but not anything to lead to a two-week ban.

And what of the supposed straw that broke the camel's back? It didn't seem like a straw, more of a... speck of dust?

-Boidy

[Wizard]

If I called you something and tacked "no offense" it doesn't remove the meaning of the message

@Boidy the 2 week ban is a minimum for a 66% warn level.

Edited by Wizard, 05 June 2008 - 23:55.

[G-sus]

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:52, said:

CodeCat, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:49, said:

Here you go:
*stuff*

But, didn't he also say "No offense to any Americans here."?

you´re hella stupid.
no offense to you though...

[Hobbesy]

G-sus, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:54, said:

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:52, said:

CodeCat, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:49, said:

Here you go:
*stuff*

But, didn't he also say "No offense to any Americans here."?

you´re hella stupid.
no offense to you though...

And this folks, is an example of flaming. THIS is what deserves a warn, not criticism.

Edited by Høbbesy, 05 June 2008 - 23:56.

[Libains]

Strategia™©, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:51, said:

AjPod, on 6 Jun 2008, 1:45, said:

As I pointed out several times I'm on neither side - i proposed a reduced sentence.

If I may ask: why? Why give this one member a reduced sentence? Why give him special treatment?

Because of the level of commitment to him seen by many forum members, although I am beginning to wonder if this thread has only just scratched the iceberg of feeling towards the mods etc. Anyways - it was a measure of flexibility - it would still leave staff etc feeling relatively content that justice had been served, but would also stand to make the other side of the argument feel better - basically it could help in preventing so many arguments. <--my logic.

Høbbesy, on 6 Jun 2008, 0:52, said:

CodeCat, on 5 Jun 2008, 18:49, said:

Here you go:
*stuff*

But, didn't he also say "No offense to any Americans here."?

Still doesn't mean that it won't cause offense - like saying sorry I hurt you after shooting you in the foot - damage is still there - if he meant no offense he shouldn't have said it.

PS i haven't seen a forum topic this popular in a long while....

Edited by AjPod, 05 June 2008 - 23:58.

[CodeCat]

lol, you're just using that against us. He illustrates a valid point, even if it's in a rather cynical way.

[Hobbesy]

May I also point out that many of the people here posted in the Political Correctness thread in the Philosopher's Corner saying they wouldn't be offended?

[Whitey]

Hey, enough flaming. We are not attempting to diminish the being of the staff nor the other members, but provide a reasonable and rational defense for Yayo.

Now, to any given member that made such crude comments about Westerners and Americans, I would be thoroughly angered. But Chris/Yayo should get special treatment. He has been here for a long time, he's had his hand in helping many members here, and above all, he is well liked, even by those of us that he offended with his comments. I think that goes a long way to show that despite his behaviour, he ought to be pardoned.

-Boidy