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[CommanderJB]

All cases have been given equal weighting in consideration of the recent issues, and that's all I will say. I'm sorry if you don't trust us to do so, though I can begin to understand how this may be, but the staff is not willing to look at anything merely through the lens of the argument being made.

[WarMenace]

Did anyone else just notice a server blackout, or was it just me?

[CommanderJB]

That was the entire forum being backed up thanks to a chat log which revealed plans to attack the forum through hacking.

[Eddy01741]

Oh... I didn't think people would go THAT far just to prove their discontent with the way the forum is being run.... Seriously... hacking the forum?

[WarMenace]

Dang, again? Now that's bad.

[Lizzie]

Eddy01741, on 31 Aug 2008, 22:31, said:

Oh... I didn't think people would go THAT far just to prove their discontent with the way the forum is being run.... Seriously... hacking the forum?

It's a group supposedly partially made of banned members. As far as I know anyway. I know I have no involvement in it.

Edited by Lizzie, 01 September 2008 - 02:37.

[RaiDK]

Eddy01741, on 1 Sep 2008, 12:31, said:

Oh... I didn't think people would go THAT far just to prove their discontent with the way the forum is being run.... Seriously... hacking the forum?

All the myspace girls they know must have blocked them

Damn, I'm really being brutal to people atm, aren't I?

[Eddy01741]

Hacking the forum.... partially made up of banned members, well, it's pretty obvious who we are referring to now.

[Jok3r]

Yeah. Basically, everything went to hell last night. Is it necessary to re-live it? Lets not. I do like the idea of a community leader, though, and I am hereby volunteering (if anybody likes me at all ) to take the position, should it be made.
Swimmer

[WarMenace]

I have a slight feeling it's Elezzark or Kacen...

[E.V.E.]

Hacking, hm?

Couldn't drag my Name in the Mud and now it's hacking.
What's next, Nuking?

Oh wait, maybe even worse!

Don't waste your time with them. They're banned for a reason and they also threatened us with this a whole Year ago.

- E.V.E.

[Ion Cannon!]

Swimmer, on 1 Sep 2008, 4:06, said:

Yeah. Basically, everything went to hell last night. Is it necessary to re-live it? Lets not. I do like the idea of a community leader, though, and I am hereby volunteering (if anybody likes me at all ) to take the position, should it be made.
Swimmer

Even if the moderating team do approve the appointment of a community leader what they want and what the community wants may be different. Both in their choices of community leader and how much access the community leader has.

Anyways, im going to sleep now. Lets continue this discussion tomorrow, its going well so far.

[Eddy01741]

That will be a big problem, because both sides have to pick a suitable person for the job, which likely means compromise, same with what parts of the forum they get to see.

[Thunderstruck]

I know plenty what the plans aginst ES were. I also know nearly all involved. But, understand, I had no hand in it. Yes, time to come clean.

Multiple people I know did plan to hack ES, a DDoS was even involved in the plan. It might happen still, but I don't know, I lost/deleted contacts for a reason.

But believe me, you would be awestruck at some of the people involved.

Now, on topic. If this temp-moderator thing happens, I will return somday. So, see ya at MGS. Bye.

[Wizard]

I think we can can redirect this thread away from "attacks" and "other members". We are already very off topic on the community leader idea as it is, but given the current situation there is scope to continue. It would be better if we kept it constructive rather than critical though.

Insomniac!, on 1 Sep 2008, 4:26, said:

Swimmer, on 1 Sep 2008, 4:06, said:

Yeah. Basically, everything went to hell last night. Is it necessary to re-live it? Lets not. I do like the idea of a community leader, though, and I am hereby volunteering (if anybody likes me at all ) to take the position, should it be made.
Swimmer

Even if the moderating team do approve the appointment of a community leader what they want and what the community wants may be different. Both in their choices of community leader and how much access the community leader has.

In a nut shell these are my thoughts. However there can always room to compromise.

[Nid]

I'm not sure such a position is even needed.
Would it not be better to build a better relationship with a staff, saving having to think of ideal candidates for this community leader?
I know things have been on edge recently with the staff, but building friendships up with the moderating team may help to resolve this. As stated before, contact through IM, PM and E-mail may help. However, perhaps a more layed back policy for the staff members could also help. For instance; if a staff member locks something that didn't particularly need to be locked, perhaps a lock removal could be brought into force if the member provides a reason with good intent for the thread to be unlocked. I think we have an ideal team at the moment, but I do think that some things about the team's behaviour can be changed. A little effort and co-operation on both the moderating team's behalf, and the members' behalf can go a long way, as prooved so far in this thread.

Edited by Niddy, 01 September 2008 - 07:55.

[Wizard]

I do like the idea here Nid. Better relations with the moderating team can be achieved over what would be a long winded and very complicated process of the community leader idea, as the membership have expressed it now. There is no reason why the position can't occur, even if unofficially and then MSN etc could be the way forward.

[Dauth]

Dauth, on 31 Aug 2008, 19:53, said:

All warnings have been handed out with a single member, Nem, receiving a 2 week ban. This is information pertaining to the topic, but the punishments themselves are not for discussion.

I need to correct this statement, one more member has been warned as some behaviour was deemed the final straw, another member who's account was suspended has now been banned for allowing the account to be used for ban evasion.

[WarMenace]

Dauth, on 1 Sep 2008, 8:16, said:

Dauth, on 31 Aug 2008, 19:53, said:

All warnings have been handed out with a single member, Nem, receiving a 2 week ban. This is information pertaining to the topic, but the punishments themselves are not for discussion.

I need to correct this statement, one more member has been warned as some behaviour was deemed the final straw, another member who's account was suspended has now been banned for allowing the account to be used for ban evasion.

Actually, i saw 4 members banned. Not gonna point out names though.

But anyway, if the community leader is pretty much the "peace-maker" but don't have control really over much of the forums, then Niddy is correct. Why not just get a responsible authority or a trusted member to do that job then?

[Eddy01741]

Um, how do you know if members were banned? Unless they were perma banned (which I doubt any were), you don't know that they are banned (unless you talk to them on MSN or something).

[E.V.E.]

That is the case, and I think that is good that way.

Some Members maybe don't wan't everyone to know that they received a Warning or got temporarily banned, while other's seem to immaturely even " brag " about it.

- E.V.E.

[Wizard]

Ok guys can we keep this slightly more to the point that who got what and when?

[Ion Cannon!]

WarMenace, on 1 Sep 2008, 16:56, said:

But anyway, if the community leader is pretty much the "peace-maker" but don't have control really over much of the forums, then Niddy is correct. Why not just get a responsible authority or a trusted member to do that job then?

Thats what my idea of a community leader was anyway. As long as both the moderating team and the members trust the person appointed to be the community leader do they really need access to the staff forums?

[Eddy01741]

Yes, peacemaker is what we all have in mind. However, there are already people that have good relations with both the moderating team and the members, but they havn't had such an active role in maintaining the peace. Basically, my idea is that the peacemaker/community leader must be assigned, and should ACTIVELY try and keep both sides happy. I mean, it won't be a very fun job, since you are forced to constantly keep an eye on both sides for any high tempers, but if done well, it will improve the forum.

Anyways, I honestly don't understand why anybody would brag about having a warning, i'm sure that would help you get the warning resolved.....

[WarMenace]

Eddy01741, on 1 Sep 2008, 12:37, said:

Um, how do you know if members were banned? Unless they were perma banned (which I doubt any were), you don't know that they are banned (unless you talk to them on MSN or something).

When they're group icon says "Banned" .

Anyway, the community leader sounds like a hard job, maybe instead of just one community leader, he/she can have sub-leaders, to look and monitor the forums, and then report it back to the actual leader.