Ben: Dauth: says:
Evening
Wizard says:
Hello
Ben: Dauth: says:
How are you?
Wizard says:
Alright
You?
Ben: Dauth: says:
I'm good
Wizard says:
Excellent
Question: Graphics cards, what does SLI mean and do?
Ben: Dauth: says:
SLI means having more than 1 card working in the same system, you don't get double performance, but it can extend the life of the system but ~20%
Wizard says:
how do you mean extend the life?
stops burnouts?
Ben: Dauth: says:
You can use it to run a faster system before replacing
Wizard says:
confused
Ben: Dauth: says:
1 card 100%
2 card SLI 120%
Wizard says:
so say I spend another £290 on a GTX280 with SLi that relieves 20% work on the cpu?
Ben: Dauth: says:
It means that the computer will run faster on games
one sec
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforc...295,2123-9.html
Look at the 280GTX and then the 280GTX SLI
Wizard says:
sadly to go from the GTC280 to a GTX260 SLI costs me £115
thats also a loss of 100mb ish as well
Ben: Dauth: says:
I'd have a single card tbh
Wizard says:
also the i7 only offers 3 6 or 12 Gb ddr3
Ben: Dauth: says:
so when you upgarde you only need 1 card
Wizard says:
which in their own right are fucking expensive
Ben: Dauth: says:
Yea
Wizard says:
this isn't easy to decide upon, shame their is no sort of performance benchmarking you can do with a specific build in order to work out what would be best
Ben: Dauth: says:
Yea
Wizard says:
right now the i7 is a really expensive option
Ben: Dauth: says:
I'm being confused by a request Hunter made
Wizard says:
hehe I saw that
would be ulitmately cheaper to run with the quad core
there are just too many limitations on the structure of each setup tbh
Ben: Dauth: says:
so ignore the quad
Wizard says:
Why? It's actually cheaper If I take that at 4 x 3.0ghz than taking the 2.66Ghz i7
Ben: Dauth: says:
too many limitations on the structure of each setup tbh
Sorry brain in neutral
Wizard says:
well if I am gonna do this right I might as well max the RAM
on an i7 that is 12GB which costs shitloads
next option is 6Gb which isn't that great
I can go with 8GB on Q or E series
Ben: Dauth: says:
8 is still plenty
Wizard says:
yeah on a different CPU
I can't run 8 on the i7
that's the point
Ben: Dauth: says:
hmm, go for 12 then
Wizard says:
that costs
brb g2g food
Ben: Dauth: says:
I'd say drop the i7 Get a Q
Wizard says:
so you've gone from ignore the Quad to get the quad?!? XD
Ben: Dauth: says:
Is money no object?
Wizard says:
strictly speaking, yes it is, I can't afford to through 2 grand at it in all fairness or I'd have bought the i7 965 already
*throw
Ben: Dauth: says:
Exactly
Wizard says:
exactly what...?
In all honesty the i7, whilst looking on the face of it to be the best performance option available, it is extremely costly
a decent package for any of the i7's is always £1500 up
Ben: Dauth: says:
Get the best bang for your buck with the buvk you have
Wizard says:
whereas if I avoid the QX9770 i can get a decent package, probably including the SLI and 8GB for near on £1500
question is, is the performance of a Q series processor & an SLI graphics card greater than an i series with a single card
Ben: Dauth: says:
I'd dodge SLI
Wizard says:
any reason for that?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Not value for money
Wizard says:
right
Ben: Dauth: says:
paying twice as much but not getting twice the performance
Wizard says:
I see, that is a very logical way to think
Ben: Dauth: says:
Remember who you are talking to
Wizard says:
a total spanner, yeah I remember
you must be having a good day
Ben: Dauth: says:
The drugs don't work
Wizard says:
I think I might have a look around that website with the bench marking etc you just showed me
Ben: Dauth: says:
Tom's Hardware guide
Wizard says:
yeah
Ben: Dauth: says:
A very good site if it has what you need
Wizard says:
what if it doesn't have what I need, does that make it a bad site?
Ben: Dauth: says:
well it gets infuriating
Wizard says:
what does?
the site?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Yea, it keeps cropping up in searches but not with the inf you're after
Wizard says:
kk
you what is infuriating, that MSN never fills the whole screen in windowed mode, always leaves a little gap at the top
Ben: Dauth: says:
hehe
Get pidgin
Wizard says:
what does that mean?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Its a IM piece of software runs everything
MSN/IRC/ICQ/facebook
Wizard says:
ah
Ben: Dauth: says:
I use it for my facebook and icq
Wizard says:
the Phenom X4 performed slower in every test against both the QZ9770 & i7 hehehe
fail tech
Ben: Dauth: says:
AMD fail
Wizard says:
yet AFtershock was raving about it
Ben: Dauth: says:
hehe
Gotta love THG
Wizard says:
THG? or am I being slow?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Toms Hardware Guide
Wizard says:
ah, yeah
Ben: Dauth: says:
You are being slow
Wizard says:
all said, the QX9770 outperforms the i series in Photoshop work
Ben: Dauth: says:
hmm
Wizard says:
only one it did and it was marginal
Ben: Dauth: says:
kk
Wizard says:
that's not actually try
Winzip, acrobat AND PS were faster on the QX9770 than the i7 965
brb
Ben: Dauth: says:
kk
me 2
mm sausage rolls
Wizard says:
back
Ben: Dauth: says:
wb
Wizard says:
ty
Ben: Dauth: says:
Been talking to the folks
Its really good to chat to home so much
Wizard says:
ioh yeah, any news from home?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Kit car passed its MoT
Wizard says:
orly what have they got?
Ben: Dauth: says:
Lomax 424
Good luck finidng a decent photo
Wizard says:
doesn't ring any bells, not much of kitnut
Ben: Dauth: says:
Its only got a 2cv as donor
Wizard says:
heheh
Ben: Dauth: says:
Was made for under 5k
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/compl...63019664069.jpg
for some lulz
Wizard says:
hehe
why are THG benchmarking games with the damn settings on low?
WTF is that about?
Ben: Dauth: says:
They go for FPS
pro gamers are all about fps to get better reactions
http://grumlt.citrin...os/lomax424.jpg in black, different lights, motorbike exhaust, single larger windscreen
Wizard says:
furry muff, doesn't matter then that they are reactiing to a large irregular shaped polygon over a discernable object then
Ben: Dauth: says:
Indeed
Wizard says:
weird looking fucker
Ben: Dauth: says:
Yea
Wizard says:
why did he get that?
Ben: Dauth: says:
We could afford it, he wanted to build one and it is a lot of fun
Even with only 602cc its great fun even as a passenger
Wizard says:
ok that is understandable to me
what chasis frame does it have, the cv?
Ben: Dauth: says:
No, some box section aluminium jobby
Light enough for me to pick up 7-8 years ago
Wizard says:
so nothing well known
Ben: Dauth: says:
Nah
and the main company went broke since the guy selling the cars was taking money and not sending parts
Wizard says:
hehe
Ben: Dauth: says:
fortunatly we lived close enough to turn up and cause problems so were never done
Wizard says:
but what an arsehole
Ben: Dauth: says:
Indeed
Wizard says:
just checking the benchmarking, the i7 top end model only just outperforms the QX9770 on FPS for all the majoir games
4fps actually
so much for quads being a waste
Ben: Dauth: says:
Core i7 is a quad
Wizard says:
no I mean the COre 2 quads
Ben: Dauth: says:
how much faster are they than duos?
Wizard says:
the ones you and everyone else have been moaning about
the i7's?
Ben: Dauth: says:
either
Wizard says:
Crysis = 162.7fps i7 965
Crysis = 143 fps QX9770
UR3 =154.5fps i7 965
UR3 = 150.4fps i7 965
it performs with crysis better than UR3
Ben: Dauth: says:
I mean the core 2 duo
below the quads
Wizard says:
one sec
same again, about 4fps
Ben: Dauth: says:
so all that extra grunt buys you 8fps?
Wizard says:
yeah
but you know the quad is a redundant chip atm
well 3 are anyway
Ben: Dauth: says:
2 possibly
Wizard says:
yeah
Ben: Dauth: says:
if they run it right they put all current programs on processor 1 and the game on processor 2
Wizard says:
the duos performs about the same again in rts
mind you the i series kicks arse in rts performance, especially WiC
top end model is nearly 60fps faster than the top end Q series
Ben: Dauth: says:
how about comparing the stuff you may buy?
Wizard says:
I have done
I have PS CS3, WiC and instead of crysis see l4d
Ben: Dauth: says:
ok
Wizard says:
each one besides WiC there is no reason to buy either the i or q series
the E would perfom perfectly
Ben: Dauth: says:
Didn't I say that 8 hours ago?
Wizard says:
especially with a GTX295 1Gb card
^ maybe, I forget you say a lot
Ben: Dauth: says:
In sheer desparation after this long conversation I will quote you bitch