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[Golan]

CodeCat, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:03, said:

Not at all. Given no evidence, gods aren't any more likely to exist than a teapot in orbit around Jupiter. But you don't see cults worshipping space teapots. The default assumption without any evidence is that something does not exist. If it weren't like that, I could say right now that there is a leprechaun hiding on the other side of Alpha Centauri and you'd have to believe me. Since that is absurd, so is any other reasoning about the existence of something for which no evidence exists.

Believe? Hell no. Me, I don't believe there is a god, let alone leprechauns in another star system. But that doesn't mean that I rule out the possibility of my believe being false. Hell, I don't have much evidence about the other side of AC, but that doesn't mean that I argue there has to be nothing but The Void.

[Ixonoclast]

Turian, on 15 Aug 2009, 18:00, said:

I am curious about that subject so much, if religions are man's ( or woman's ) imagination and created with that way, I wonder who started it and how, we will probably never learn this but if I knew its created by a certain group of people and I see them in front of me, well... bad things gonna happen, very very bad things.

Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.

Golan, on 15 Aug 2009, 10:00, said:

Fun fact: the lack of evidence for her existence is a defining point of a truly transcendent God.

During medieval philosophy class we discussed a special school of monks who philosophised about a truly transcendant God. It's very... heavy shit. Blind, yet allseeing, Almighty, yet without power... Godlike, but also nothing...

The shining darkness.

[Whitey]

Ixonoclast, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:14, said:

Turian, on 15 Aug 2009, 18:00, said:

I am curious about that subject so much, if religions are man's ( or woman's ) imagination and created with that way, I wonder who started it and how, we will probably never learn this but if I knew its created by a certain group of people and I see them in front of me, well... bad things gonna happen, very very bad things.

Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.

I can't see this as any form of proof as to how religion began. It might be a false proof of the belief itself, but in order to have such experiences and recognize them as 'divine' would first require that a belief in 'divinity' itself exists.

[General]

Boidy, on 15 Aug 2009, 23:18, said:

Ixonoclast, on 15 Aug 2009, 16:14, said:

Religion started when one of our forefathers started using psychedelic plants, like mushrooms. Look at hunter-gatherer tribes. Look at the hippies in the '60s doing psychedelics and having divine experiences.

I can't see this as any form of proof as to how religion began. It might be a false proof of the belief itself, but in order to have such experiences and recognize them as 'divine' would first require that a belief in 'divinity' itself exists.

Yes, thats still no explanation, seeing some kind of weird waves and hallucination stuff can't make you to say : Oh look, I found it, there is a God and spirits, lets worship them that way... I think this can't be explained with psychedelic mushrooms.

[E-713 Aegis]

Egyptian Pagan here. Anubis is my patron. XD

[SquigPie]

E-713 Aegis, on 16 Aug 2009, 15:25, said:

Egyptian Pagan here. Anubis is my patron. XD

Rly?

Cool.

[E-713 Aegis]

I grab alot of stuff from Wicca and all that, but I worship the old Egyptian Gods.

[General]

E-713 Aegis, on 18 Aug 2009, 2:34, said:

I grab alot of stuff from Wicca and all that, but I worship the old Egyptian Gods.

Sure its not for me to judge you but it would be good to hear from you how come you believe in them, persons who worship old Egyptian Gods are not something we see everyday