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[TehKiller]

My brain just farted reading that. M16 has recoil. Currently there is no firearm that has no recoil or retardedly low recoil and the M16A2 (the one I assume they are trying to represent considering it didnt exist back in 'Nam) can be fire like that only if its in an emplacement (IE...you sure as hell cant fire like that just by holding it with your hands)

Also old sounds were worse than MW2...apparently they listened to some of the rage mail but some weapons still sounds really crappy (in other words its no where near reality) like the RPK for example.

[Jok3r]

TehKiller, on 6 Nov 2010, 19:46, said:

My brain just farted reading that. M16 has recoil. Currently there is no firearm that has no recoil or retardedly low recoil and the M16A2 (the one I assume they are trying to represent considering it didnt exist back in 'Nam) can be fire like that only if its in an emplacement (IE...you sure as hell cant fire like that just by holding it with your hands)

Actually, longer barreled Armalites tend to have pretty minimal recoil. When it comes down to it, though the round is obviously somewhat hotter and larger, 5.56 is a more or less a beefed up .22LR. Yes, the gun kicks, and yes, it's slightly exagerated how little it had here, but as far as modern assault rifles go, the AR15 and it's variants have pretty manageable recoil.

[Chyros]

Jok3r, on 7 Nov 2010, 3:45, said:

TehKiller, on 6 Nov 2010, 19:46, said:

My brain just farted reading that. M16 has recoil. Currently there is no firearm that has no recoil or retardedly low recoil and the M16A2 (the one I assume they are trying to represent considering it didnt exist back in 'Nam) can be fire like that only if its in an emplacement (IE...you sure as hell cant fire like that just by holding it with your hands)

Actually, longer barreled Armalites tend to have pretty minimal recoil. When it comes down to it, though the round is obviously somewhat hotter and larger, 5.56 is a more or less a beefed up .22LR. Yes, the gun kicks, and yes, it's slightly exagerated how little it had here, but as far as modern assault rifles go, the AR15 and it's variants have pretty manageable recoil.

It doesn't really matter much how much the rifle recoils in RL - low recoil is a tightrope of balance that so far no-one has successfully walked in the whole CoD series. Balance > realism, and for recoil, this is true more than for anything else.

[Jok3r]

Oh, I'm aware it's a balance thing here, I was just commenting because TehKiller had said that.

[amazin]

plus isnt one of the biggest reasons for the m16 having burst fire in real life the fact that it balances stopping power and recoil management? so if in game it was burst, it would be a terrible gun if it had recoil as strong as the other ARs

[Chyros]

amazin, on 7 Nov 2010, 21:03, said:

plus isnt one of the biggest reasons for the m16 having burst fire in real life the fact that it balances stopping power and recoil management?

Nope.

[TehKiller]

Jok3r, on 7 Nov 2010, 2:45, said:

TehKiller, on 6 Nov 2010, 19:46, said:

My brain just farted reading that. M16 has recoil. Currently there is no firearm that has no recoil or retardedly low recoil and the M16A2 (the one I assume they are trying to represent considering it didnt exist back in 'Nam) can be fire like that only if its in an emplacement (IE...you sure as hell cant fire like that just by holding it with your hands)

Actually, longer barreled Armalites tend to have pretty minimal recoil. When it comes down to it, though the round is obviously somewhat hotter and larger, 5.56 is a more or less a beefed up .22LR. Yes, the gun kicks, and yes, it's slightly exagerated how little it had here, but as far as modern assault rifles go, the AR15 and it's variants have pretty manageable recoil.

Actually we are discussing the M16 here not the AR15. And there is a spread of the bullets (albeit at ranges up to 100m its not bigger than 5cm apart from each other)

amazin, on 7 Nov 2010, 20:03, said:

plus isnt one of the biggest reasons for the m16 having burst fire in real life the fact that it balances stopping power and recoil management? so if in game it was burst, it would be a terrible gun if it had recoil as strong as the other ARs

Just like Chyros simply put: "Nope."

The US Army just figured out that barely trained conscripts waste ammo like retards if they have a fully auto weapon. Even though they have passed the period of drafting they havent reverted to fully automatic weapons since it would be costly.

[Chyros]

Kudos to Stinger; they have discovered an infinite care package glitch. Yes, that is the second time that's happened.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=bh-fz5L-RJw

It's hard to keep up a positive look when you know Treyarch will find a way to mess things up like this, and then it gets proven . I wouldn't even be surprised if Treyarch managed to forget to prevent care runners and stuff like that that were patched out of MW2 .

[Stinger]

Edit: @ Chyros, I had the Add Reply window open while I was talking to you about this.

The game's not even out yet and already the n00bs have found a way to glitch to get infinite Care Packages.

Edited by Stinger, 07 November 2010 - 22:31.

[Chyros]

They knew what weakness to look for from MW2 and it's exactly that weakness that they managed to get working in BO.

[Pav:3d]

Better now than 5 months down the line when they wont bother supporting it anymore I guess

[Chyros]

Pav:3d, on 8 Nov 2010, 0:48, said:

Better now than 5 months down the line when they wont bother supporting it anymore I guess

I agree completely.

Besides, it's good to let the world see how well Treyarch design and playtest their games. Even better still though, to see if they can patch a tiny glitch in two days before their major release. If they can't have a patch out for this on their big release day, what does that tell us about them?

[Stinger]

There are also working prestige lobbies on the Xbox 360 version that boost you to Prestige 15, Rank 50.

JD2020 claimed no one would be able to hack the game and it's already hacked and glitched before it's out. Embarrassing or what!

Edited by Stinger, 07 November 2010 - 23:18.

[Wizard]

Stinger, on 7 Nov 2010, 23:18, said:

JD2020 claimed no one would be able to hack the game and it's already hacked and glitched before it's out. Embarrassing or what!

I'd say it was more stupid than embarrassing. What kind of idiot says that these days? Makes me wonder if the developers are aware of the internet and the retards that inhabit it.......

[Stinger]

I think he underestimates the resourcefulness of people when he made that dumbass statement.

And since when has a community manager known anything about a game?

[Libains]

Stinger, on 8 Nov 2010, 0:09, said:

I think he underestimates the resourcefulness of people when he made that dumbass statement.

And since when has a community manager known anything about a game?

Apoc is the exception that proves this rule, methinks

Re: The game, I'm not sure if I can cough up £40 for a game that looks more and more like a clone of MW2 by the day.

[deltaepsilon]

Sam Worthington (with his often faltering American accent) and Ice Cube voice characters in this game

[Chyros]

deltaepsilon, on 8 Nov 2010, 8:33, said:

Sam Worthington (with his often faltering American accent) and Ice Cube voice characters in this game

I think the CoD devs are under the erroneous impression that we want to hear rappers in our games .

[SquigPie]

Are you telling me that Escape from Butcher's Bay would've been the same without Xzibit telling people to "SHUT THA FUCK UP!"?

I dunno, rappers are sometimes awesome at voiceacting, mostly because they are insanely good at swearing and sounded tough.

Edited by SquigPie, 08 November 2010 - 08:19.

[deltaepsilon]

Chyros, on 8 Nov 2010, 18:10, said:

deltaepsilon, on 8 Nov 2010, 8:33, said:

Sam Worthington (with his often faltering American accent) and Ice Cube voice characters in this game

I think the CoD devs are under the erroneous impression that we want to hear rappers in our games .

When he's called off, he's got a sawed off, when he squeezes the trigger bodies are hauled off.

Spoiler

1 free internets if you get the reference

[Chyros]

SquigPie, on 8 Nov 2010, 10:18, said:

Are you telling me that Escape from Butcher's Bay would've been the same without Xzibit telling people to "SHUT THA FUCK UP!"?

I dunno, rappers are sometimes awesome at voiceacting, mostly because they are insanely good at swearing and sounded tough.

What's cool about swearing all the time and sounding tough?

Needs more Brit voice actors!

[deltaepsilon]

Vinnie Jones

[SquigPie]

Chyros, on 8 Nov 2010, 9:36, said:

SquigPie, on 8 Nov 2010, 10:18, said:

Are you telling me that Escape from Butcher's Bay would've been the same without Xzibit telling people to "SHUT THA FUCK UP!"?

I dunno, rappers are sometimes awesome at voiceacting, mostly because they are insanely good at swearing and sounded tough.

What's cool about swearing all the time and sounding tough?

Needs more Brit voice actors!

Because it's hilarious!

Play Killzone 2 and you'll know what I mean!

"Fuuck! this sheet is fuucked uup! Fuckin' Higs! Motherfuuckers!" said in the most over-the-top tough voice

Edited by SquigPie, 08 November 2010 - 08:51.

[Stinger]

I have my retail copy of Black Ops but I doubt I'll be able to do anything with it. I'll keep you posted.

AJ, on 8 Nov 2010, 0:17, said:

Apoc is the exception that proves this rule, methinks

Apoc made more false promises than the devil when he was in charge of the C&C community. He gave the C&C: Tiberium Wars community patch notes for a fix that would never come - the fabled "Patch 1.10".

He kept stringing along the modding community for Kane's Wrath by giving evasive answers regarding the SDK and modding assets. He hid on Twitter from the community and only showed up on the C&C message boards once in a blue moon to give BS EA PR responses.

He also asked the community what they wanted in a Kane's Wrath patch (1.03) that never came, either.

He was woeful at getting the C&C community a fix for the gamebreaking mismatch error in Kane's Wrath that made online play with several of the Nod teams impossible. It was only when a member of the community wrote to one of the top EA dogs complaining about the state of the game that the cat was set among the pigeons and the patch was authorised.

No, seriously, Apoc was one of the worst examples of a community manager that you can get.

AJ, on 8 Nov 2010, 0:17, said:

Re: The game, I'm not sure if I can cough up £40 for a game that looks more and more like a clone of MW2 by the day.

Tesco and GAME are selling it for £34.99. If you have reward points with GAME you could use those against it.

My cousin said he had a voucher code for Tesco so he was able to get a fiver off it, but I'm not sure how he got this.

@ Chyros, it needs more Craig Fairbrass and less larp.

Edit: I cannot install my retail copy at this time due to the Steam lock and activation process.

Edited by Stinger, 08 November 2010 - 09:29.

[deltaepsilon]

They've already killed off Gaz and Ghost, not sure how they'll be able to keep getting away with reusing that dude's voice.