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[CreepyMoto]

SquigPie, on 25 Aug 2010, 17:31, said:

Seriously, did they expect him to sit around eating cupcakes while they broke in?
Why did they smash the windows, why did they throw a fucking glowstick in but no stun grenades/flash grenades/tear gas grenades.

Here ya there , i first thought it was a flash grenade , but when i looked again i saw it glow i was like , Dude thats just retarded

[Sharpnessism]

Pretty sad... at one point one of them tries to throw a glow stick into a hole in the window they smashed, but fails. Then some other SWAT picks it up and just drops it in. At another point you can see the sledge hammer guy accidentally letting go of it and losing it. The hijacker walks out at multiple points and exposes himself to sniper(s), no shots were taken. Towards the end you see the "commando" simply unloading his whole fucking clip at the hijacker, wouldn't be surprised if at least one victim was because of poor aim. And of course, you have around two dozen armed men, some with full automatic weapons, shields, and pistols, who huddle around the corner of the bus while one guy tries to make an opening with a hammer (taking a longass time doing it).

The fact that there are photos of filipino nurses AND police/SWAT posing and smiling in front of the aftermath is going to create even more backlash in HK/China. Even worse is how the filipino president addressed it.

[Zeke]

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=I1fl5rAmGd0

Recreation of the incident, using witness acounts

EDIT: The firefights we're exaggerated (both amount and duration) to better see what happened, but that's basically it

EDIT: Fixed the video

Edited by Zeke, 26 August 2010 - 12:47.

[Alias]

One of them died because of them smashing the windows? Wow, talk about tactical fail. :|

[SquigPie]

Policeman 1: "Okay guys, there's a hostage situation, some psycho's locked himself up in a bus and-"
Policeman 2: "FUCK THAT! LET'S SMASH SOME WINDOWS!"
Policeman 1: "Uhhm, but I'm not sure-"
Policeman 3: "FUCK YES! I GOT A SLEDGEHAMMER AT MY PLACE!"
Policeman 2: "LET'S DO THIS!"

[Kris]

SquigPie, on 26 Aug 2010, 18:31, said:

Policeman 1: "Okay guys, there's a hostage situation, some psycho's locked himself up in a bus and-"
Policeman 2: "FUCK THAT! LET'S SMASH SOME WINDOWS!"
Policeman 1: "Uhhm, but I'm not sure-"
Policeman 3: "FUCK YES! I GOT A SLEDGEHAMMER AT MY PLACE!"
Policeman 2: "LET'S DO THIS!"

Police 1: BUT FIRST!:

[Shirou]

SquigPie, on 26 Aug 2010, 18:31, said:

Policeman 1: "Okay guys, there's a hostage situation, some psycho's locked himself up in a bus and-"
Policeman 2: "FUCK THAT! LET'S SMASH SOME WINDOWS!"
Policeman 1: "Uhhm, but I'm not sure-"
Policeman 3: "FUCK YES! I GOT A SLEDGEHAMMER AT MY PLACE!"
Policeman 2: "LET'S DO THIS!"

LEEEROY JENKINS!!!

Edited by Shirou, 28 August 2010 - 22:36.

[CJ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk...acific-11122434

No comment...

[BeefJeRKy]

CJ, on 29 Aug 2010, 1:52, said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...acific-11122434

No comment...

They draped his coffin with the flag? After what he did? That was just plain insensitive.

[Zeke]

Well technically even though he started it, it was the PNP that made it worse.....

[CJ]

Zeke, on 29 Aug 2010, 5:10, said:

Well technically even though he started it, it was the PNP that made it worse.....

So if someone were to slaughter a million of persons with a bomb because a government didn't pay a ransom, he would be considered as a martyr and draped in his national flag because the government made it worse?

[Zeke]

CJ, on 29 Aug 2010, 17:56, said:

Zeke, on 29 Aug 2010, 5:10, said:

Well technically even though he started it, it was the PNP that made it worse.....

So if someone were to slaughter a million of persons with a bomb because a government didn't pay a ransom, he would be considered as a martyr and draped in his national flag because the government made it worse?

In order to answer that question, one must first ask:

We're the charges against him even true in the first place?

Was there a reason to arrest his family in front of him, while he still had the hostages?

Is he really the terrorist here? Or merely a victim of someone else's plot?

The people who handled the situation did not simply "refuse to pay the ransom".

They ignored his request and spit on his face.

His brother volunteered to negotiate, make him stop, did they let him? No. Instead he was arrested in the middle of the "negotiations". Then he suddenly learned from watching the news from the bus that his wife was also arrested.

You'd think it was because the PNP already had a plan to stop him, but no, infact the opposite was true.

The way the incident was handled was not only poor it was completely stupid.

[CJ]

That still doesn't justify the fact that he'd be treated like some sort of hero. The fact that police fucked up the whole operation doesn't give him the right to kill anyone...