←  Warfare Technology

Fallout Studios Forums

»

Best Fighter or bomber jet ever made

VertiGo-'s Photo VertiGo- 06 May 2006

yeah, combined with good piloting skills and a russian, you're immortal in dogfights
Quote

Whitey's Photo Whitey 06 May 2006

Well the LM F-22 is a lot more conventional and cheap aircraft compared the the Boeing F-23.

I prefer Lockheed Martin for the reliable aircraft and stealth tech.
Quote

VertiGo-'s Photo VertiGo- 06 May 2006

still, the YF23 was rejected because the technology being used for that beauty is too high and too "new" to be used/accepted for this time... it's because of spareparts... the USAF currently doesn't have spareparts for the YF23, while they have more than enough spareparts for the F22... and also.. the YF23 is more of a technology demostrator for future designs and flight systems IMO
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 06 May 2006

there's also a MiG tech demonstrator and an F-15 TD. I just cant remember the F-15's, but the MiG's is the 1.44
Quote

fjsgdfsdjgbsgkjfg's Photo fjsgdfsdjgbsgkjfg 06 May 2006

dsgkjsdfnjfsdsdf
Edited by fjsgdfsdjgbsgkjfg, 01 July 2008 - 07:31.
Quote

BillyChaka's Photo BillyChaka 06 May 2006

A10s don't always use depleted uranium, do they?
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 07 May 2006

not always. globalsecurity has some of the weapon systems (for the A/OA-10, this has all the specs http://www.globalsec...a-10-specs.htm). they use the PGU-14/B API Armor Piercing Incendiary [DU] (depleted uranium) rounds, the PGU-13/B HEI High Explosive Incendiary rounds, and the PGU-15/B TP Target Practice rounds
Quote

VertiGo-'s Photo VertiGo- 07 May 2006

i didn't know that A10s have DU rounds, i always thought that they only used AP and/or Incendiary rounds... but still.. the size of those rounds are as big as a champagne bottle... and it can smack an APC into dust
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 07 May 2006

BillyChaka, on 6 May 2006, 09:20, said:

AllStarZ, on 5 May 2006, 22:35, said:

B-17 was pretty crap. Lancasters were alot better.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

B17 was definetly not crap. One of the most reliable planes of the war. Don't get me wrong, the Lancasters were awesome too, but the B17 was not crap. We lost plenty of them, but they were ****ing awesome. It was only the American bombing strategy that was flawed, not the plane itself.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why carry so many damn guns when you simply plan to bomb the living daylights out of some cities? Take away some guns and ammunition and you can inflict alot more damage, although strategic bombing itself as a strategy is flawed unless the effects are instantaneously felt.
Quote

Whitey's Photo Whitey 07 May 2006

remove the guns and you have no on-board defense
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 07 May 2006

But onboard defence was pretty much pointless, and even though it had 13 machine guns around itself, it had several blindspots. Besides, the better solution is to provide long range escorts for the bombers.
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 07 May 2006

there was a heavy fighter varient of the B-17. I believe it was the B-40. it had 2 ball turrets, lots more ammo, and was mainly an escort plane for the heavy raids. like switchblade said, the planes, without the MGs, had no defense, until late 1944.
Quote

Baal-Zebub's Photo Baal-Zebub 08 May 2006

Su-37 ftw!!!1111
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 08 May 2006

not in service ftw!!!!!111!!!11!!
Quote

Baal-Zebub's Photo Baal-Zebub 08 May 2006

Wait, I meant Su-37. My bad.
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 08 May 2006

no but the SU-37 is more of a concept rather than an in service plane. like the F-35
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 09 May 2006

RustyDroid, on 7 May 2006, 02:10, said:

The planes, without the MGs, had no defense, until late 1944.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

They were getting shot down in droves anyways, and combining this with flawed American bombing strategy, thousands of airmen died.
Quote

Whitey's Photo Whitey 09 May 2006

Well hey, we weren't the only ones with flawed strategies. :)
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 09 May 2006

yeah, look at the Germans. used the same tactics throughout the war and got annihilated. and the Japanese suicide tactics werent great either.
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 09 May 2006

But both of them worked quite effectively. The strategies of the Germans were what brought Hitler closest to his dream of a Europe under the dark banner of Nazism. It only failed because of "General Winter".

Also, the Japanese suicide attacks were very effective, accounting for most Allied sinkings.
Quote

Foxhound's Photo Foxhound 09 May 2006

still counterproductive if you ask me.
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 09 May 2006

Not if you have a population of 60 million mostly fanatical people willing to shed blood of their enemies and their own in the service of the Emperor (who in reality had little control over anything).
Quote

Waris's Photo Waris 09 May 2006

Oh get back on topic guys.
Quote

Cattman2236's Photo Cattman2236 09 May 2006

Waris, on 9 May 2006, 18:10, said:

Oh get back on topic guys.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Agreed, I hate it when people go all historical *cough*google*cough*.

Favorite Fighter: Spitfire

Favourite Bomber: Lancaster....0wned
Edited by Cattman2236, 09 May 2006 - 18:19.
Quote

AllStarZ's Photo AllStarZ 09 May 2006

Favourite Fighter plane (propeller) would probably be either the Sopwith Camel or the P-51 Mustang.
Quote