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deltaepsilon's Photo deltaepsilon 21 Jan 2011

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Some interesting choices. I'm wondering about the direction Nolan will be taking with this thing.
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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 21 Jan 2011

I don't really care, I've always found them to be pretentious overrated movies running on dead castmembers.
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deltaepsilon's Photo deltaepsilon 21 Jan 2011

That's good to know, thanks for that.
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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 21 Jan 2011

No problem :likey:
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BeefJeRKy's Photo BeefJeRKy 21 Jan 2011

I'm very glad that Megan Faux was discarded as a choice for the role of Catwoman. However I have no idea about how Anne Hathaway will do. I tend to like her acting but I don't know how she will fare in a movie like this. As for the guy playing Bane, well I wonder how they will make him look.
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Mbob61's Photo Mbob61 21 Jan 2011

I'm happy with the choice for bane but I'm not sure about Hathaway. Although, from what i read Catwoman wasn't actually mentioned so maybe its about her becoming Catwoman or something.

Mike
Edited by Mbob61, 21 January 2011 - 12:30.
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Wizard's Photo Wizard 21 Jan 2011

Hardy is, without a doubt, a first class actor. Although he is in danager of becoming a typecast villan. Hathaway is a good choice, if only as she is better actress than Mrs. No-pain-medication-allowed Cruise and Maggie stick-to-B-movies Gyllenhaal. Sadly the Batman franchise isn't reknown for it's lady stars, even in the modern era, where the films don't actually compare to nailing yourself to a bit of drywall.
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Libains's Photo Libains 21 Jan 2011

Interesting stuff, I'd been assuming that Hardy would be playing Hugo Strange... obviously not. That said, Bane is a very interesting character, and one that probably fits into the Nolans' interpretation of Batman a little better - he's essentially a highly trained fighter with extremely potent steroids (the Venom formula). I like the idea, the interpretation will also be extremely interesting.

As for Hathaway, I like her. Catwoman, however, I'm not sure on. Problem being that Catwoman was already monumentally fucked up by Halle Berry, thus there's going to be one hell of a lot of stigma attached to the role. That said, the Nolans did a marvellous job of the second film, and I have a lot of faith in them to get Catwoman right.

Overall, they've been extremely good with their villains so far, and have cast them in a slightly different light, but in a gritty way that suits the Gotham they've created. I say go for it.
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Pav:3d's Photo Pav:3d 21 Jan 2011

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin
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Libains's Photo Libains 21 Jan 2011

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.
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Ion Cannon!'s Photo Ion Cannon! 21 Jan 2011

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


If he isn't he has terrible taste in movies.
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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 21 Jan 2011

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


Actually, ultra-camp and silly is alot more entertaining than the fake "So dark and deep and philosophical" act these movies have.
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Libains's Photo Libains 21 Jan 2011

View PostSquigPie, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:05, said:

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


Actually, ultra-camp and silly is alot more entertaining than the fake "So dark and deep and philosophical" act these movies have.

Batman & Robin was the ultimate in cheese movies. It was also terrible beyond words. The Dark Knight is still recognised as one of the best films of the last decade, if not one of the best films of all time. Yes, maybe its deep and dark and philosophical, but the writing was great, the acting was great, and the overall atmosphere of the film was great. It made it seem real in a world where we don't have superheroes. If you can't appreciate that magnificent ability of the Nolans to intertwine two almost completely different worlds and make it seem realistic, then you're lost to trashy films my friend :whaa:
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View PostSquigPie, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:05, said:

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


Actually, ultra-camp and silly is alot more entertaining than the fake "So dark and deep and philosophical" act these movies have.

Tho I was just trolling, Im agreed with this.

The films take themselves way too seriously. Its a guy wearing a bat suit for gawds sake.
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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 21 Jan 2011

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 17:10, said:

View PostSquigPie, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:05, said:

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


Actually, ultra-camp and silly is alot more entertaining than the fake "So dark and deep and philosophical" act these movies have.

Batman & Robin was the ultimate in cheese movies. It was also terrible beyond words. The Dark Knight is still recognised as one of the best films of the last decade, if not one of the best films of all time. Yes, maybe its deep and dark and philosophical, but the writing was great, the acting was great, and the overall atmosphere of the film was great. It made it seem real in a world where we don't have superheroes. If you can't appreciate that magnificent ability of the Nolans to intertwine two almost completely different worlds and make it seem realistic, then you're lost to trashy films my friend :whaa:

Wait, wut?

Didn't you notice I said FAKE "deepdarkphilosophicaliness"?

Since I've read/watched/played some pretty "deepdarkphilosophically" books/movies/games, I can say that this isn't it.

Also: Bale's bat-voice, I can't it seriously when he starts talking with that ridiculous growl.
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Mbob61's Photo Mbob61 21 Jan 2011

The growl was admittedly pretty stupid but overall the I personally really liked the batman protrayal in the dark knight.
Having a super hero as something more than the normal 1 dimensional cheesy hero was a good change.

Mike
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Libains's Photo Libains 21 Jan 2011

View PostSquigPie, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:24, said:

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 17:10, said:

View PostSquigPie, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:05, said:

View PostAJ, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:53, said:

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin

I really, really, really hope you're being incredibly sarcastic.


Actually, ultra-camp and silly is alot more entertaining than the fake "So dark and deep and philosophical" act these movies have.

Batman & Robin was the ultimate in cheese movies. It was also terrible beyond words. The Dark Knight is still recognised as one of the best films of the last decade, if not one of the best films of all time. Yes, maybe its deep and dark and philosophical, but the writing was great, the acting was great, and the overall atmosphere of the film was great. It made it seem real in a world where we don't have superheroes. If you can't appreciate that magnificent ability of the Nolans to intertwine two almost completely different worlds and make it seem realistic, then you're lost to trashy films my friend :whaa:

Wait, wut?

Didn't you notice I said FAKE "deepdarkphilosophicaliness"?

Since I've read/watched/played some pretty "deepdarkphilosophically" books/movies/games, I can say that this isn't it.

Also: Bale's bat-voice, I can't it seriously when he starts talking with that ridiculous growl.

OK, maybe I should have made this clearer:
"maybe its deep and dark and philosophical"

Note the intense sarcasm. It's a brilliant film as to what it is. Trying to lump it into a genre is practically impossible.
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TheDR's Photo TheDR 21 Jan 2011

Dark Night was a great movie (if not a big long winded in places, but i feel Nolan has learned from this as Inception is just win).
This one should be good, i really enjoy the fact Nolan isn't just making a Batman movie, he is making his own special brand of Batman, just like the comics and the graphic novels.

View PostPav:3d, on 21 Jan 2011, 16:11, said:

The films take themselves way too seriously. Its a guy wearing a bat suit for gawds sake.

Well thats one of the main points in Batman. The Villains in the Batman series point out that he is also wearing a costume and is just as insane as they are. If they didn't take it seriously that previous argument is invalid.

Bane and Catwoman don't sound particularly appealing, but then again Nolan reinvented the Joker into something sadistic, i hope the same is done to these two villains.
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View PostPav:3d, on 22 Jan 2011, 1:49, said:

I hope Bane will be more like he was in Batman & Robin. Infact I hope the entire film will be more like Batman & Robin


Screw that, let's go back to 60s Adam West Batman!


On a more related note, yes Nolan Batman takes itself far too seriously but yes they're still stellar movies. 90s Batman The Animated Series was IMO the best mix of camp and seriousness.

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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 21 Jan 2011

DCAU is made of win and awesome!
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Ghostrider's Photo Ghostrider 23 Jan 2011

How can these movies "take themselves too seriously?" The Nolan's are adding some realism to the comic book story, just like all the other superhero movies (Spiderman, Ironman, etc.)
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Ion Cannon!'s Photo Ion Cannon! 23 Jan 2011

View PostGhostrider, on 23 Jan 2011, 3:02, said:

How can these movies "take themselves too seriously?" The Nolan's are adding some realism to the comic book story, just like all the other superhero movies (Spiderman, Ironman, etc.)


Because some people are never happy.
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SquigPie's Photo SquigPie 23 Jan 2011

View PostIon Cannon!, on 23 Jan 2011, 13:58, said:

View PostGhostrider, on 23 Jan 2011, 3:02, said:

How can these movies "take themselves too seriously?" The Nolan's are adding some realism to the comic book story, just like all the other superhero movies (Spiderman, Ironman, etc.)


Because some people are never happy.

Yes, because you an't be happy if you don't like pretentious superhero films.
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View PostSquigPie, on 23 Jan 2011, 13:36, said:

View PostIon Cannon!, on 23 Jan 2011, 13:58, said:

View PostGhostrider, on 23 Jan 2011, 3:02, said:

How can these movies "take themselves too seriously?" The Nolan's are adding some realism to the comic book story, just like all the other superhero movies (Spiderman, Ironman, etc.)


Because some people are never happy.

Yes, because you an't be happy if you don't like pretentious superhero films.


How exactly is it pretentious? Just because the film doesn't have enough camp for your liking?
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View PostIon Cannon!, on 23 Jan 2011, 15:15, said:

View PostSquigPie, on 23 Jan 2011, 13:36, said:

View PostIon Cannon!, on 23 Jan 2011, 13:58, said:

View PostGhostrider, on 23 Jan 2011, 3:02, said:

How can these movies "take themselves too seriously?" The Nolan's are adding some realism to the comic book story, just like all the other superhero movies (Spiderman, Ironman, etc.)


Because some people are never happy.

Yes, because you an't be happy if you don't like pretentious superhero films.


How exactly is it pretentious? Just because the film doesn't have enough camp for your liking?

No, because I don't like movies slaming their opinions into my face with the subtlety of a sledgehammer wielded by a raving lunatic. the intelligent media knows that people don't grow from having everything slammed into their heads. They grow from thinking themselves to it.
Edited by SquigPie, 23 January 2011 - 17:31.
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