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[partyzanpaulzy]

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And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

[samster01]

Kichō, on 14 Mar 2011, 7:01, said:

What a terrible disaster, I hope that the people over there recover.

I was browsing another forum and found this, I am enraged by what's been saidhttp://apina.biz/39128.jpg how can people by so ... heartless?

The "people" in that image are the utter dregs of humanity, to post such compassionless, heartless comments is just... I can't even find the right words.

It must be absolutely horrific to have your world literally destroyed around you, my heart goes out to all those poor people in Japan who have been affected by the earthquake and tsunami disasters.

- Sam

[Dutchygamer]

partyzanpaulzy, on 14 Mar 2011, 15:30, said:

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And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

Don't you just love idiots like these? They seemed to forgot that their 'great' country did some much worse things afterwards to Japan (dropping 2 nukes, killing, no wait, evaporating thousands of people). Another reason why most of the world thinks America only has idiots as population.
This, of course, is very wrong, but with dozens of idiots like these it's hard to get away from that stereotype...

[Ion Cannon!]

Interesting article, I find myself agreeing with it.

http://www.theregist...hiima_analysis/

[Whitey]

Dutchygamer, on 14 Mar 2011, 11:14, said:

partyzanpaulzy, on 14 Mar 2011, 15:30, said:

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And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

Don't you just love idiots like these? They seemed to forgot that their 'great' country did some much worse things afterwards to Japan (dropping 2 nukes, killing, no wait, evaporating thousands of people). Another reason why most of the world thinks America only has idiots as population.
This, of course, is very wrong, but with dozens of idiots like these it's hard to get away from that stereotype...

And it certainly does not help when people dredge up horrific examples like this and comment on them as they pertain to the population as a whole.

Seriously, does this have to be a "Hate on America" topic? It has absolutely nothing to do with America. Those posting "Payback for Pearl Harbor" and the like? They can piss right off. We don't need your clarification as to why this reflects negatively upon us.

That said, this is a terrible event that could have gone worse. I pray for those that have been hurt and will be hurt by this event, but I, for one, am thankful that the circumstances did not result in an even more catastrophic scenario.

[Ghostrider]

AJ, on 13 Mar 2011, 23:29, said:

Quick point to note. If a nuclear reactor uses seawater in its cooling, the reactor has been written off. Don't expect these reactors to ever run again. Main reason = they're flooded by seawater, and the reactor corrodes away in double time. Utterly dangerous, and utterly useless. The Japanese are trying to minimise losses now, but the plants are certainly 'losses'.

Good point AJ. Without the use of two nuclear power plants though, I wonder how long it will take to get the power level back to what it was in Japan.

Ion Cannon!, on 14 Mar 2011, 12:19, said:

Interesting article, I find myself agreeing with it.

http://www.theregist...hiima_analysis/

I also agree Ion, I think that the minimal damage or radiation effects from such a huge disaster is pretty remarkable. It's certainly a testament to Japanese engineering, especially with most of the buildings in Japan surviving such an earthquake.

Boidy, on 14 Mar 2011, 13:37, said:

Dutchygamer, on 14 Mar 2011, 11:14, said:

partyzanpaulzy, on 14 Mar 2011, 15:30, said:

SquigPie: http://i.imgur.com/rGpqY.jpg

And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

Don't you just love idiots like these? They seemed to forgot that their 'great' country did some much worse things afterwards to Japan (dropping 2 nukes, killing, no wait, evaporating thousands of people). Another reason why most of the world thinks America only has idiots as population.
This, of course, is very wrong, but with dozens of idiots like these it's hard to get away from that stereotype...

And it certainly does not help when people dredge up horrific examples like this and comment on them as they pertain to the population as a whole.

Seriously, does this have to be a "Hate on America" topic? It has absolutely nothing to do with America. Those posting "Payback for Pearl Harbor" and the like? They can piss right off. We don't need your clarification as to why this reflects negatively upon us.

That said, this is a terrible event that could have gone worse. I pray for those that have been hurt and will be hurt by this event, but I, for one, am thankful that the circumstances did not result in an even more catastrophic scenario.

As Boidy said, don't extrapolate the extreme views of these tards to the rest of America. There are assholes in every country that think this incident happened for a reason.

Interesting to note though, that the majority of those facebook posts were made by middle-aged men.

Edited by Ghostrider, 14 March 2011 - 18:34.

[SquigPie]

partyzanpaulzy, on 14 Mar 2011, 15:30, said:

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And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

:facepalm:
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:facepalm:

The idiocy! The sheer moronic brainless idiocy!

Edited by SquigPie, 14 March 2011 - 19:31.

[BeefJeRKy]

Yeah those people saying "Japan got what it deserved for Pearl Harbor" seem to forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[Major Fuckup]

Dutchygamer, on 15 Mar 2011, 0:14, said:

partyzanpaulzy, on 14 Mar 2011, 15:30, said:

SquigPie: http://i.imgur.com/rGpqY.jpg

And one would think nuking two Japanese cities in the end of the WWII was sufficient satisfaction.

Don't you just love idiots like these? They seemed to forgot that their 'great' country did some much worse things afterwards to Japan (dropping 2 nukes, killing, no wait, evaporating thousands of people). Another reason why most of the world thinks America only has idiots as population.
This, of course, is very wrong, but with dozens of idiots like these it's hard to get away from that stereotype...

Some people do need their hands broke they they can't use a computer. Honestly you cant keep shit like that to your self?

Edited by Major Fuckup, 15 March 2011 - 10:12.

[SquigPie]

Well, everyone has a right to their opinion, nomatter how stupid it is.

But still, some shit you should just keep to yourself.

[Sgt. Nuker]

Things continue to get worse for the Japanese. The nation is being rocked by after-shocks with fairly heady Richter readings. The most recent registering 6.0.

There is a bit of light to this all though. A 78 year old man was found underneath some rubble after having been there for 4 days. He was found alive.

Edited by Sgt. Nuker, 15 March 2011 - 17:48.

[Destiny]

That's...awesome. That's quite good news. Hope he makes a fast recovery.

[Dutchygamer]

Woah, it seemed some ppl completely mis-interpreted my post I didn't want to bash the whole of USA with it. God, I'm making too many posts lately that people understand wrong. My apologies if I offended anyone

[Shirou]

Scope, on 14 Mar 2011, 20:48, said:

Yeah those people saying "Japan got what it deserved for Pearl Harbor" seem to forget about Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I'm very sure that any American history book designed for school teaching does contain more words on Pearl Harbour than it does on the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki afterwards. Thats just the way it goes. Similarly, in my history book the Dutch tradition of being major slavers is always mentioned, but never really fleshed out at all.

American patriotism for History is much stronger. When people who do not want to read about America's wrong doings read (or in many cases, don't) stuff that tries to hide these wrong doings, you get shit like this.

Again, these are a few morons among millions of american facebook users. There are always those among us, don't get worked up about it, just part of the system. Nationalism is something that creates stupidity, and the more a country has of it, the more morons it has.

Edited by Shirou, 15 March 2011 - 19:42.

[MR.Kim]

After Earthquake and tsunami in Japan, the world economic is getting worth than Libya's crisis(read some news paper). Who knows what's going to next threat.

[Rich19]

Rich19, on 14 Mar 2011, 1:14, said:

Admiral FCS, on 13 Mar 2011, 21:06, said:

From what I've read (which might not be the most accurate source), the Self Defence Force had already sent in a couple waves of soldiers attempting to shut down the reactors, and apparently, some of them had already died because of radiation poisoning.

I call bullshit. Here is a pretty in-depth (although admittedly now slightly out of date) analysis of what happened by an MIT research scientist (scroll down to "This is his text in full and unedited. It is very long, so get comfy."), and why there is absolutely no cause for alarm. Most of the scare stories you hear are almost certainly the media going crazy.

Tl;dr(ish) version (radioactive element release bits in bold):
- Tsunami took out diesel generators used to cool reactor. Backups brought in did not work.
- Priority of people working on reactor switches to "keep the coating around the fuel rods and the pressure vessel containing the reactor intact".
- Pressure inside pressure vessel increases due to the water surrounding the reactor core heating up.
- Steam deliberately released from pressure vessel through pressure release valves in order to preserve integrity of pressure vessel.
- Radioactive N-16 and noble gases exit pressure vessel along with steam. Half lives of radioactive material no more than a few seconds.
- Water level falls below level of fuel rods (briefly), causing coating around fuel rods to be damaged (very slightly).
- By-products of Uranium decay (radioactive isotopes of Iodine and Cesium) begin to mix with the steam in VERY small quantities (although the temperature is still too low for the Uranium to melt).
- Iodine and Cesium released along with steam, in tiny quantities. As the article author puts it, "If you were sitting on top of the plants’ chimney when they were venting, you should probably give up smoking to return to your former life expectancy." In any case, these decay products will have been carried out to sea, far from humans.
- Detection of Cesium and Iodine causes engineers to change to plan B: since distilled water cannot be added to reactor fast enough to keep water level above fuel rods, sea water is used to cool reactor instead. At this point the danger of a melt down passes.
- The sea water used to cool the reactor will be slightly radioactive, but this is contained in the reactor and can be processed and disposed of safely.

...


It seems I was very wrong about this. I've heard rumours that this article was a bit of astroturfing by people in the nuclear industry, and it seems that Dr Josef Oehmen is not all he seems. Since posting that, the situation has definitely become more dangerous. According to the BBC, radiation in the surrounding area has started to reach dangerous levels.

[Kris]

The thread title should be changed since the japan quake was raised upto Magnetude 9.0. Anyway, just this morning on the news, they said there's another huge explosion on the Nuclear powerplant and the japanese themselves are now saying it's becoming too dangerous that they might have to relocate thousands of people. I see another Chernobyl 2.0 in progress here D:

[BeefJeRKy]

This is the death of the nuclear industry.

[SquigPie]

Scope, on 16 Mar 2011, 7:39, said:

This is the death of the nuclear industry.

Pretty much, Germany's been giving up their nuclear plans for the future, and with all the industry stockmarkets taking a dive. The Alternative Energy one is the only one to rise.

[BeefJeRKy]

Hope it won't affect research on Fusion plants though.

[Raven]

Some interesting thoughts on why there is no looting in Japan.

[partyzanpaulzy]

So far it's been (according to TV) the 7th level nuclear plant catastrophe, Chernobyl was the 8th level. And Germany has reacted with switching off 7 of their oldest nuclear PPs which resulted in growth of the electricity price by 1800%... at least on the stock markets. Like there was any unstable ground threatening to damage them. During the worst time (2012) of the economic crisis.

Edited by partyzanpaulzy, 16 March 2011 - 19:08.

[Ghostrider]

That's a great example, imo, of what NOT to do. Turning off nuclear power plants will simply feed the media frenzy on the danger of nuclear power, as well as force conventional energy power plants (coal, natural gas, etc.) to work overtime, causing more pollution. Yeehaw.

[Rich19]

Let me get this straight. The reactors were hit almost directly by the fourth-most-powerful earthquake on record, followed by a 10m tsunami, with numerous aftershocks reaching magnitude 6, and they are still intact and haven't melted down, and you're trying to tell me that nuclear power is unsafe?

[Chyros]

Rich19, on 16 Mar 2011, 22:03, said:

Let me get this straight. The reactors were hit almost directly by the fourth-most-powerful earthquake on record, followed by a 10m tsunami, with numerous aftershocks reaching magnitude 6, and they are still intact and haven't melted down, and you're trying to tell me that nuclear power is unsafe?

Meh, Merkel is just using it as an excuse to force her stance on nuclear power.