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[TheDR]

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

Seems legit.

[TheDR]

You bet!

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

[Alias]

Grapes

[Destiny]

Building the Soviet economy!

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

[Chyros]

I'm back!

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

That doesn't answer the question.

[Chyros]

No exposure at all.

[General]

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 13:44, said:

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

I used ChatGPT quite a bit. My impression of it is that it is not AI. Just an advanced form of auto-fill.
There is no true AI yet. However, what those programs labelled as AI do, still impressive and a lot of jobs will be gone because of that.

I already stopped my career pursuing as a concept artist for the future. If the AI art creation this advanced in its infancy, there will be no need for most of the concept artists in video games. And i do not enjoy using the tool. (Maybe i will at some point just for the sake of better paying job)

We will approach to "soulless dystopian hi-tech style of living" sooner than anticipated. There might even be some countries completely banning those techs and stick to old way of living. Of course they will be taken over by the more efficient AI soon enough. That taking over part might be the only "fun" bit to watch, rest is soulless, deppressive misery.

[TheDR]

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 13:44, said:

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

We've chatted about it at my writing group and one person is worried that it will blur the line between what is real in terms of writing (but then they write about all encomposing AI stuff so...).

Someone else generated some sci-fi clothing descriptions to see what it could do.

Spoiler

Sure, here are some descriptions of clothes for a fictional sci-fi setting:

• The jumpsuit was made of a lightweight, yet durable, synthetic material that hugged the body like a second skin. It was form-fitting, with reinforced stitching along the seams, and had built-in nanotech sensors that could detect changes in the wearer's environment. The jumpsuit was designed to be worn during space missions, and had an oxygen supply and thermal insulation built in.
  
• The cloak was made of a shimmering, metallic fabric that reflected light in dazzling patterns. It had a hood that covered the wearer's head and face, and was secured at the neck with a magnetic clasp. The cloak had a built-in force field that could deflect energy weapons, and could camouflage the wearer to blend in with their surroundings.
  
• The exosuit was a suit of armor that encased the wearer's entire body, from head to toe. It was made of a lightweight, yet incredibly strong, alloy that could withstand even the most extreme conditions. The exosuit had built-in weaponry, including laser blasters and retractable blades, and had a built-in AI system that could assist the wearer in combat.
  
• The cyberpunk jacket was made of a mix of leather and synthetic fabrics, with neon-colored piping and metallic accents. It had a high collar and oversized sleeves, with pockets and compartments sewn into every available surface. The jacket had a built-in holographic display, which could be used to access information and communicate with others.
  
• The bodysuit was made of a bioluminescent material that glowed softly in the dark. It was skin-tight, with a built-in neural interface that allowed the wearer to control their movements with their thoughts. The bodysuit had a built-in life support system that could sustain the wearer in the vacuum of space, and was designed for use by space explorers and adventurers.

They are alright, but they 'feel' off. We guessed it's because most of the writing that the AI learns from is the writing that is online for free. That free writing is mostly fan fiction so it all has a certain flavour (at the moment!).

I got onboard the AI generation train early on by getting access to Dalle2 and just messing around with it. I've generated some surreal images as writing prompts for my writing group, which has been great fun.

I pitched creating a funny AI calendar at work, or perhaps using the AI generation software to created free stock imagery for us. One of our largest outgoings in design is imagery; not just paying for it, but constantly finding new images. My boss seems to find the AI image generation amusing but hasn't engaged with it. I fear we might be left behind if other companies catch on and begin to make calendars using these tools.

Personally I'm just going along for the ride because what else can we do? The idea of trying to stop new technology is ridiculous, we now just have to mitigate the risks. I believe AI generation will be the next 'internet' in terms of the impact it has on human society. We already can't trust what we read, soon we won't be able to trust anything we see. AI generated photos/videos will outnumber reality and it's going to be impossible to tell the difference.

Chyros, on 11 April 2023 - 15:02, said:

I'm back!

Welcome back!

wen pics of stolen holy hat ???

[Chyros]

TheDR, on 11 April 2023 - 17:14, said:

Chyros, on 11 April 2023 - 15:02, said:

I'm back!

Welcome back!

wen pics of stolen holy hat ???

Couldn't get one D:!

[TheDR]

Chyros, on 11 April 2023 - 17:45, said:

TheDR, on 11 April 2023 - 17:14, said:

Chyros, on 11 April 2023 - 15:02, said:

I'm back!

Welcome back!

wen pics of stolen holy hat ???

Couldn't get one D:!

UNACEPTABLE!

[General]

Accept or not, you piece of shit, you're still going to burn!

[Destiny]

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 13:44, said:

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

I've used it...twice? Because my brain can't do math, I asked it to help me take off 100 seconds from 3 minutes, and display the remaining time in minutes.

I couldn't do it with a calculator because my brain just encounters a hard stop when trying to math

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

General, on 11 April 2023 - 16:53, said:

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 13:44, said:

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

I used ChatGPT quite a bit. My impression of it is that it is not AI. Just an advanced form of auto-fill.
There is no true AI yet. However, what those programs labelled as AI do, still impressive and a lot of jobs will be gone because of that.

I already stopped my career pursuing as a concept artist for the future. If the AI art creation this advanced in its infancy, there will be no need for most of the concept artists in video games. And i do not enjoy using the tool. (Maybe i will at some point just for the sake of better paying job)

We will approach to "soulless dystopian hi-tech style of living" sooner than anticipated. There might even be some countries completely banning those techs and stick to old way of living. Of course they will be taken over by the more efficient AI soon enough. That taking over part might be the only "fun" bit to watch, rest is soulless, deppressive misery.

TheDR, on 11 April 2023 - 17:14, said:

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 13:44, said:

Random question, how much exposure have you guys had to Chat GPT and other recent AI advancements, and what are you guys' thoughts on it? How will it effect day-to-day life over the next few years?

We've chatted about it at my writing group and one person is worried that it will blur the line between what is real in terms of writing (but then they write about all encomposing AI stuff so...).

Someone else generated some sci-fi clothing descriptions to see what it could do.

Spoiler

Sure, here are some descriptions of clothes for a fictional sci-fi setting:

• The jumpsuit was made of a lightweight, yet durable, synthetic material that hugged the body like a second skin. It was form-fitting, with reinforced stitching along the seams, and had built-in nanotech sensors that could detect changes in the wearer's environment. The jumpsuit was designed to be worn during space missions, and had an oxygen supply and thermal insulation built in.
  
• The cloak was made of a shimmering, metallic fabric that reflected light in dazzling patterns. It had a hood that covered the wearer's head and face, and was secured at the neck with a magnetic clasp. The cloak had a built-in force field that could deflect energy weapons, and could camouflage the wearer to blend in with their surroundings.
  
• The exosuit was a suit of armor that encased the wearer's entire body, from head to toe. It was made of a lightweight, yet incredibly strong, alloy that could withstand even the most extreme conditions. The exosuit had built-in weaponry, including laser blasters and retractable blades, and had a built-in AI system that could assist the wearer in combat.
  
• The cyberpunk jacket was made of a mix of leather and synthetic fabrics, with neon-colored piping and metallic accents. It had a high collar and oversized sleeves, with pockets and compartments sewn into every available surface. The jacket had a built-in holographic display, which could be used to access information and communicate with others.
  
• The bodysuit was made of a bioluminescent material that glowed softly in the dark. It was skin-tight, with a built-in neural interface that allowed the wearer to control their movements with their thoughts. The bodysuit had a built-in life support system that could sustain the wearer in the vacuum of space, and was designed for use by space explorers and adventurers.

They are alright, but they 'feel' off. We guessed it's because most of the writing that the AI learns from is the writing that is online for free. That free writing is mostly fan fiction so it all has a certain flavour (at the moment!).

I got onboard the AI generation train early on by getting access to Dalle2 and just messing around with it. I've generated some surreal images as writing prompts for my writing group, which has been great fun.

I pitched creating a funny AI calendar at work, or perhaps using the AI generation software to created free stock imagery for us. One of our largest outgoings in design is imagery; not just paying for it, but constantly finding new images. My boss seems to find the AI image generation amusing but hasn't engaged with it. I fear we might be left behind if other companies catch on and begin to make calendars using these tools.

Personally I'm just going along for the ride because what else can we do? The idea of trying to stop new technology is ridiculous, we now just have to mitigate the risks. I believe AI generation will be the next 'internet' in terms of the impact it has on human society. We already can't trust what we read, soon we won't be able to trust anything we see. AI generated photos/videos will outnumber reality and it's going to be impossible to tell the difference.

It's pretty scary how quickly things are progressing. Within a couple of days of ChatGPT being released, it went from a fun novelty to it being an integral part of my workflow that I'll use multiple times a day, and that's the same for all the other devs at my work too.

I still remember one of the first things I got it to do. I wrote some dummy PHP code, that just counted up, I gave it no context for what the code did or what I expected to happen, I simply said "Why doesn't this work", and it figured out what I was expecting the code to do, and realised it was different to what the code was actually doing... And then fixed and commented the code. It wasn't a particularly difficult problem to fix for a human, but the fact it was able to connect several layers of logic together was just mind blowing. I think that's when I realised this was on par with the internet being invented. I've lost count of the number of (public) innovations that have been made since then that also feel like massive jumps in capabilities, and it doesn't seem to be slowing down any time soon. Even if AI dev is halted for 6 months like some people want, there are still so many things to be discovered GPT4 without even building a larger LLM.

6 months ago I not only would have thought my job was safe, but I wouldn't have even asked myself the question since it was so blindingly obvious that it was safe, to now thinking not only my job might not exist in a few years, but will the company I work for even exist in a few years? We're desperately trying to pivot to include AI in things we do, and maybe it will have short term benefits, but what will websites even look like in the not too distant future? A large chunk of the internet is just a way of presenting information to a user, but what incentive do they have to exist if all the information will just be scraped by a bot of some description and presented to a user via a chat or even a speech interface?

I'd like to think we're heading to some form of Star Trek utopia where people only work because they enjoy it, but best case scenario there's going to be a very difficult transitionary period with large scale unemployment and a small handful of people becoming even more insanely rich than they already are.

Edited by Bob, 11 April 2023 - 21:26.

[Chyros]

Btw, can really recommend Core Keeper if you like nice soundtracks. It's very nice and calming to listen to.

[General]

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 21:24, said:

I'd like to think we're heading to some form of Star Trek utopia where people only work because they enjoy it, but best case scenario there's going to be a very difficult transitionary period with large scale unemployment and a small handful of people becoming even more insanely rich than they already are.

Utopia is impossible with this much population (Atleast a permanent or long term one) Even the best, wealthiest countries to live in have fundamental problems which are ready to explode on small disruptions.
Insanity is more rampant than people realize. Especially among developing or under-developed countries. There are millions of people in my relatively modern country which is ready to go on murder spree with a word from their leader.

Best case scenario would be universal basic income becoming global. Which will of course not be enough for anything but getting basic food. Perhaps could be used to enforce people to live in rural areas instead of stuffing themselves in major cities. Authoritarianism already rising worldwide in alarming degree, people still seem to repeat the mistakes of the past and learn nothing.

or i don't know shit and it will be better

Edited by General, 12 April 2023 - 04:04.

[Destiny]

Bob, on 11 April 2023 - 21:24, said:

I'd like to think we're heading to some form of Star Trek utopia where people only work because they enjoy it, but best case scenario there's going to be a very difficult transitionary period with large scale unemployment and a small handful of people becoming even more insanely rich than they already are.

This would be great except for the problem that we can't generate food like we can generate things from AI prompts

If we can provide unlimited food for the world, we can start becoming that utopia by only working when we enjoy it

[Chyros]

You know, the more I see of that Resident Evil game, the more it becomes obvious that it's clearly not scary at all, and barely even a horror game Oo .

[Destiny]

I'm not sure if they're residents, but they sure are evil!

[General]

Chyros, on 12 April 2023 - 14:38, said:

You know, the more I see of that Resident Evil game, the more it becomes obvious that it's clearly not scary at all, and barely even a horror game Oo .

For younger people, it is.
It has quite tense gameplay though. Especially with gamepad (since it is a bit more difficult to aim)

It has a demo, you can try for yourself. Chainsaw dude is quite scary for first timers

[Chyros]

General, on 12 April 2023 - 16:17, said:

Chyros, on 12 April 2023 - 14:38, said:

You know, the more I see of that Resident Evil game, the more it becomes obvious that it's clearly not scary at all, and barely even a horror game Oo .

For younger people, it is.
It has quite tense gameplay though. Especially with gamepad (since it is a bit more difficult to aim)

It has a demo, you can try for yourself. Chainsaw dude is quite scary for first timers

That's a good tip, I'll try that .

I guess there's not that many games that really are horror, let alone good horror. Games that allow you to go guns blazing are never really horror, and ones that are basd on jumpscares are just lame.

[General]

RE4 is definitely not a jumpscare. There are enemies which can suddenly grab you from behind but only if you are not careful and don't see them coming. It has one of the best gameplay designs.

I am sure you would love dungeon part, it is quite short but it has one of the scariest gameplay i have ever played ( Sadly it is in mid-game and not in demo)

Also, it has horrible one-liners, the best

My only complain is that this scene is not in the game, probably they are scared of feminist backlash

Edited by General, 12 April 2023 - 16:36.