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#1 NergiZed

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:07

I was just curious why the strat center had a build limit. I know it has something to do with the battle plans and stuff. So I'm just asking a simple question: Is removing the strat center build limit codeable?

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:09

I'm guessing it is, because they same logic applies to heroes, but no, the Strat center limit will never be greater than 1.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:09

strategy center cannon spamm ahoy!
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:11

View PostThe_Hunter, on 27 Nov 2006, 00:09, said:

strategy center cannon spamm ahoy!


Well it's a pretty expensive cannon, I don't see why anyone would build more then the amount that's nessary for research

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:16

Obviously you've never played a really pissed off Turtler with lots-o-cash.

1 Strat Centre cannon can decimate a MBT in 2 shots.
That means if the whole defense line is made of them, uh... bad news for your units :P

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:27

When you have a bunch of Strat Centers, you can use all three Battle Plans at once. (Can't stack them anymore though, like have ten search and destroys activated for insane range or ten bombardments for one shot kills. You could way back before ZH got patches. :P )

Needless to say, US gets way too overpowered at that point.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 00:29

View Postthinimus, on 27 Nov 2006, 00:27, said:

When you have a bunch of Strat Centers, you can use all three Battle Plans at once. (Can't stack them anymore though, like have ten search and destroys activated for insane range or ten bombardments for one shot kills. You could way back before ZH got patches. :P )

Needless to say, US gets way too overpowered at that point.


But is is it possible to have only one battle plan in effect at one time with no stacking?

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:04

You can have as many of one type activated as you can, but it will only count as one.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 01:13

Why would you want more then one stratagy Center exept spam Strat Cannon? Or You could spam Hold the line so Rangers can survive a nuke. :cyclops:

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 02:45

I say no for that same reason, that cannon is pretty damn powerful, not only that, but you can tech up even faster. I say nay.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:53

This isn't a suggestion! I'm asking if it's possible! I'm also asking if the battle plans could have a limit of one instead of the building itself.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 05:43

Why don't you try it yourself.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 06:44

I dont think he knows how to play around with INI coding. COuld be wrong.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 06:45

It's not rocket science. The stuff is practically written infront of you.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 11:14

View PostAlias, on 27 Nov 2006, 06:45, said:

It's not rocket science. The stuff is practically written infront of you.

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I don't have anything that can extract .big files (although somehow my music player can play the music.big file :P )

I've messed around with inis on other games like homeworld 2 and RA 2 (or which with Homeworld two it was the only way I could beat it, it was so flippin hard!)

And I always thought this was a hard code thing, all those battle plan thnigs.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 12:27

I got more then one strat center once and used two battleplans at once.

All I did to do this was simple, I just stole it from an enemy comp while I was owning him.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 12:31

I can tell you, it's possible to make you able to build more than 1 strategy center (it isn't as hardcoded as it seems), but because you can use this to use more than one battleplan (I'm not sure if this can be prevented) it won't be ever done.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 12:45

View PostNergiZed, on 27 Nov 2006, 06:14, said:

View PostAlias, on 27 Nov 2006, 06:45, said:

It's not rocket science. The stuff is practically written infront of you.

By the way, Judgement, your sig is massive.


I don't have anything that can extract .big files (although somehow my music player can play the music.big file :P )

I've messed around with inis on other games like homeworld 2 and RA 2 (or which with Homeworld two it was the only way I could beat it, it was so flippin hard!)

And I always thought this was a hard code thing, all those battle plan thnigs.

You don't need to extract big files! Just open the god damned thing in notepad.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 13:03

View PostNergiZed, on 27 Nov 2006, 12:53, said:

This isn't a suggestion! I'm asking if it's possible! I'm also asking if the battle plans could have a limit of one instead of the building itself.


Remove this line:

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MaxSimultaneousOfType = 1


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Posted 27 November 2006 - 17:33

It's the downside of the USA, only 1 strat centre.
Be honost with yourself, if the USA could make more than one, how OP would that be.
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Posted 27 November 2006 - 17:37

Being able to build more than 1 SC is entirely agaisnt the point of the building, so this will not be changed in any way. Where'S the tactic when you can build 3 SC's and enable all three battle-plans.

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Posted 27 November 2006 - 23:16

I would say, if you're so desperate to have more than one Strategy Center, either 1) Have a map where it has a couple scattered, 2) Be so cool as to remove the max number code yourself, or 3) Play against another USA so you can steal it. Because yeah, Strategy Center cannons can ruin your day.
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Posted 28 November 2006 - 15:14

Removing the Strategy Center build limit is a BAD idea. I've comboed Strat Center plans before and it can get real bad.
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Posted 28 November 2006 - 15:43

I'd guess he wanted to experiment it himself, so i think it wouldn't be a problem.

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View PostNergiZed, on 27 Nov 2006, 12:53, said:

This isn't a suggestion! I'm asking if it's possible!


If so, you should have post this in a proper place.

Moved to Generals editing forum.

Edited by Waris, 28 November 2006 - 15:45.




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