On Love, Attraction and Relationships
LCPL Carrow
26 Apr 2007
"Caronte" said:
But -and I talk from painstaking experience- you *must*, and I insist in must, know when not to be a moron -no mean to offend here-. Friendship is a good thing, being close to someone is always nice, but if you have romantic aspirations there should be limits to what someone should endure. Yours shan't always be the shoulder where he/she would cry, you shouldn't be the one he/she always talk about his/her problems -especially love problems- etc... I hope you see what I mean...
I learned that the hard way, I had a girl fixed in my mind for a long time and I endured many things hoping she would see... what? I don't even remember now...
I learned that the hard way, I had a girl fixed in my mind for a long time and I endured many things hoping she would see... what? I don't even remember now...
Yep, me too.
"Nuker" said:
I would like nothing more than to have someone to call "my girlfriend", someone to love, to hold, and to care for, but it doesn't seem, at least to me anyway, anyone who wants what I have to offer.
I guess I should have let it be known earlier, but I don't date a girl just to date her. Of course, with the two girlfriends I've had (technically it was just one since the other...well, we won't go there), I can't say I have a wealth of knowledge on how to get a girl to go out with you. I only know the basics, and for me right now, I feel like Hitch. I can help someone esle get a girlfriend, but I can't do the same myself.
I guess I should have let it be known earlier, but I don't date a girl just to date her. Of course, with the two girlfriends I've had (technically it was just one since the other...well, we won't go there), I can't say I have a wealth of knowledge on how to get a girl to go out with you. I only know the basics, and for me right now, I feel like Hitch. I can help someone esle get a girlfriend, but I can't do the same myself.
Yep, me too.
This is the part of love that sucks: when you don't have it.
Caronte
26 Apr 2007
@Nuker
Should have known that moron was a too strong term. But hey, my grasp of English is not perfect -especially if you consider that I spoke more Scottish than English
- I should have used "credule" or similar... I apologize then.
Your view of the world is pretty similar to mine. I don't date girls just to date her but I understand we're all humans here, and a bit of flirt back -if it ever happens- is understandable and acceptable for me. In my opinion it gives you a little boost to your confidence and selfesteem but it should never, ever, in any circumstance go beyond that if the girl has already someone in her heart...
Besides, as you said, if she is saying that "Yeah, if I didn't have *insert name of b/f here*, yeah, you'd be it." in my opinion it doesn't speak highly of her...This kind of thinking always mesmerized me. Why wouldn't she dump his boyfriend to be with you then??
And Nuker, don't worry, I believe for most people it's the same situation. You can help others to get a girlfriend though it seems you're unable to get one. It's the same for me and for a lot of people. And in the end, it always comes to the basics when flirting. Experience helps, sure, but since each woman/men is a different world you never know what's going to happen. At least that's the way I see it.
Boy, this talk has given me the blues... I think I'm for a walk to clear my ideas a bit. But as Terminator said "I'll be back"
Should have known that moron was a too strong term. But hey, my grasp of English is not perfect -especially if you consider that I spoke more Scottish than English

Your view of the world is pretty similar to mine. I don't date girls just to date her but I understand we're all humans here, and a bit of flirt back -if it ever happens- is understandable and acceptable for me. In my opinion it gives you a little boost to your confidence and selfesteem but it should never, ever, in any circumstance go beyond that if the girl has already someone in her heart...
Besides, as you said, if she is saying that "Yeah, if I didn't have *insert name of b/f here*, yeah, you'd be it." in my opinion it doesn't speak highly of her...This kind of thinking always mesmerized me. Why wouldn't she dump his boyfriend to be with you then??
And Nuker, don't worry, I believe for most people it's the same situation. You can help others to get a girlfriend though it seems you're unable to get one. It's the same for me and for a lot of people. And in the end, it always comes to the basics when flirting. Experience helps, sure, but since each woman/men is a different world you never know what's going to happen. At least that's the way I see it.
Boy, this talk has given me the blues... I think I'm for a walk to clear my ideas a bit. But as Terminator said "I'll be back"

Sgt. Nuker
27 Apr 2007
No need to apologize mate
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I know why: she loves him too much. I respect that, which is why I don't flirt nearly as much with her, if at all. I also ask her to check with her b/f if an event comes up and she asks me to go with her and her friends (like a dance). Her b/f is away at college, and she and her friend have invited me to go with them to dances a couple times. Although we're just friends, it doesn't feel right for some reason.
Regards,
Nuker

Caronte, on 26 Apr 2007, 11:11, said:
Why wouldn't she dump her boyfriend to be with you then??
I know why: she loves him too much. I respect that, which is why I don't flirt nearly as much with her, if at all. I also ask her to check with her b/f if an event comes up and she asks me to go with her and her friends (like a dance). Her b/f is away at college, and she and her friend have invited me to go with them to dances a couple times. Although we're just friends, it doesn't feel right for some reason.
Regards,
Nuker
CoLT
27 Apr 2007
Major Nuker, on 26 Apr 2007, 14:38, said:
Maybe it's because I seek companionship... I would like nothing more than to have someone to call "my girlfriend", someone to love, to hold, and to care for, but it doesn't seem, at least to me anyway, anyone who wants what I have to offer.
I know how you feel. I'm EXACTLY the same. All of my friends are finding someone. I want the same. Not for the sake of having it but because they seem to have this state of happiness that I don't have.
Major Nuker, on 26 Apr 2007, 14:38, said:
....I feel like Hitch. I can help someone esle get a girlfriend, but I can't do the same myself.
Same here. I know what to say to people who are going through relationship troubles but when it comes to me, well... I can't save myself at all.
Major Nuker, on 27 Apr 2007, 05:04, said:
Although we're just friends, it doesn't feel right for some reason.
It's also the same over here. I'm currently one of the best friends of my best friends girlfriend. We've only met a few times but we are quite good friends. It just doesn't feel right when I talk to her and all (and when she hugs me, MAN that is awkward). It really doesn't feel right because she with my best friend.
CoLT
29 Apr 2007
Another happy [/sarcasm] update on me.
So far, nothing has progressed. We don't speak at all now. It's suddenly quite cold and awkward. I've decided, against my hopes, to end this pursuit. I really don't see any good in trying to continue and I've no idea where to begin with trying to bring things back. So far, I've done nothing. Yeah, nothing. Not even attempted to make conversation.
Unless anyone here says otherwise or has anything that could help me, I guess this is over and I will simply have to keep an eye out for someone else.
So far, nothing has progressed. We don't speak at all now. It's suddenly quite cold and awkward. I've decided, against my hopes, to end this pursuit. I really don't see any good in trying to continue and I've no idea where to begin with trying to bring things back. So far, I've done nothing. Yeah, nothing. Not even attempted to make conversation.
Unless anyone here says otherwise or has anything that could help me, I guess this is over and I will simply have to keep an eye out for someone else.
Sgt. Nuker
29 Apr 2007
Personally, if the feelings have grown cold, and the conversation is non-existant, I would have done the same thing mate. It's a sign that you should move on. Hopefully you'll find someone that is right for you and doesn't make excuses not to meet you. Just never change. Be who you are, because there's someone out there that likes you just as you are.
Best wishes,
Nuker
Best wishes,
Nuker
AllStarZ
29 Apr 2007
Whitey
29 Apr 2007
Sorry to interrupt the sorrowful discussion, but mine said yes. 
In which case there was eye-contact involved previous, as well as a few small conversations. She also tended to make small comments on things I said, some directly contradicting my statements, though most usually in a joking manner.
Or I was just lucky.
Or I'm just that sexy.
But I payed attention and whaddya know. To the rest of y'all, best of luck. Sorry to hear of your troubles Colt :(

In which case there was eye-contact involved previous, as well as a few small conversations. She also tended to make small comments on things I said, some directly contradicting my statements, though most usually in a joking manner.
Or I was just lucky.
Or I'm just that sexy.
But I payed attention and whaddya know. To the rest of y'all, best of luck. Sorry to hear of your troubles Colt :(
Anon45566
29 Apr 2007
It's alright! I am a girl in r/l and I can tell you right now that you shouldn't care about ANYONE who doesn't give a damn about you. One day, you will find that special someone! Hold on! Keep trying! 
Good luck!
Your friend,
-Hinata Prime

Good luck!
Your friend,
-Hinata Prime
CoLT
30 Apr 2007
Thanks everyone. And congrats, Leatherneck.
I'm just gonna try one more thing before I give up on this completely. I don't want to walk away without having actually done anything to close it off. It just feels unfinished to me and I can't do that. I can't leave it like that. So I'm gonna give it one last shot before I move on.
I'm just gonna try one more thing before I give up on this completely. I don't want to walk away without having actually done anything to close it off. It just feels unfinished to me and I can't do that. I can't leave it like that. So I'm gonna give it one last shot before I move on.
Ektufall
30 Apr 2007
Hinata Prime, on 29 Apr 2007, 21:39, said:
It's alright! I am a girl in r/l and I can tell you right now that you shouldn't care about ANYONE who doesn't give a damn about you. One day, you will find that special someone! Hold on! Keep trying! 
Good luck!
Your friend,
-Hinata Prime

Good luck!
Your friend,
-Hinata Prime
Right in an spot Granny (Can I call you that for now and on?


Edited by Ektufall, 30 April 2007 - 23:25.
Saint
01 May 2007
Ah, the whole is mainly about true love and you'll know if its true love cause then u'll feel it. I thought I was there before but my feelings were wrong lol. The girl I thought I truly was in love with ended up lieing to me for 3 months about how she felt so we were technically together for 5 months instead of 8 and our 1 year anniversary would've been in the middle of April on the 14th this month. Lesson of this is make sure she feels the same about you before you give your heart to her. Then your all set.
-Saint-
-Saint-
Ektufall
01 May 2007
Hmm I wasted year in things like that - fake feelings and on ,but true love lasted only 2-3 months. Sometimes it's hard to take steps and break the dream you had wanted.. But whats gone is gone

CoLT
01 May 2007
Ok another update. This time much more pleasant.
As those of you who have been following my story in this thread will already know, drama is the only class we have together. I have asked her to work with me on this next task we were assigned.
The opportunity could not present itself in any clearer a form. The task is to perform 2 scenes. One must be taken from a play called Away by Michael Gow. If you know it, you'll know that there are very few scenes in which there are only same-sex characters on stage.
So this means, there must be mixed groups. She is also fairly quiet in-class because she doesn't have any REALLY good friends in this class. So, she was left without a partner. I was also without a partner and so I asked her to join me. The scene I have planned to do with her involves calling her such things as "sweetheart" and whatnot.
She seemed quite happy to talk to me and so the silence between us has lifted. Tomorrow, we will work on our performances I think and possibly some time outside of school or class time. It is going to be for work mostly but I'm gonna make it a little bit fun and personal too.
As those of you who have been following my story in this thread will already know, drama is the only class we have together. I have asked her to work with me on this next task we were assigned.
The opportunity could not present itself in any clearer a form. The task is to perform 2 scenes. One must be taken from a play called Away by Michael Gow. If you know it, you'll know that there are very few scenes in which there are only same-sex characters on stage.
So this means, there must be mixed groups. She is also fairly quiet in-class because she doesn't have any REALLY good friends in this class. So, she was left without a partner. I was also without a partner and so I asked her to join me. The scene I have planned to do with her involves calling her such things as "sweetheart" and whatnot.
She seemed quite happy to talk to me and so the silence between us has lifted. Tomorrow, we will work on our performances I think and possibly some time outside of school or class time. It is going to be for work mostly but I'm gonna make it a little bit fun and personal too.
Whitey
01 May 2007
Well, good luck with it then. By the will of my greatness, you shall succeed.
Sgt. Nuker
02 May 2007
Best of luck to you mate, but personally, I see (or at least I think I see) your reasoning for this, outside the fact that you were both partnerless. Yes, it's just a role, but sometimes girls can see through things like that, so I'd be careful as to what your reasoning to do that scene is. It may be that in the end it all works out, or that this whole thing could blow up in your face. I hope it isn't the latter and that things do work out, but give it some thought (if you haven't alread) as to why you're picking that scene.
She, in a way, has burned you once. It would be foolish on your part to let her do it to you again.
Regards,
Nuker
She, in a way, has burned you once. It would be foolish on your part to let her do it to you again.
Regards,
Nuker
Judgement
02 May 2007
This is long.
THe only way to find out if a chick likes you is by asking her to a movie. Actually there are a couple ways. See if you ask her to a movie than you can pretend its either to go on a date or just as friends. You dont have to specify.
The other way is just be nice and see how she responds. If you give her a hug when your saying good bye and she likes it and you can feel she is giving you a hug(youll know) than that means there might be more. (Im sorta a whore for hugs though and basically everyone gets one)
If you two talk alot in school or whereever than there is another indication. If she sees you and gets all happy and decides to come to you to talk and say hi, another good indication.
Just look into her eyes one day when your talking. And if she is smiling and seems to be floating on every word you say than thats a good sign she is into you.
One advice you should follow though is not to let the moment slip by. From personal experience I know that there are moments which you cant miss with a girl otherwise youll be screwed and stuck as friends for a while. Be a risk taker. If you feel the mood is right than try your hand at asking her.
And I just read your last post, this would be the best time to see how she feels. Dont make anything over the top. Just be nice and take it slow. And just watch yourself.
Oh and remember one more thing. I have heard this from my friend many times. There are plenty of fish in the ocean. What this means is, dont be sad about one girl. I know this. Its pointless. I have literally spilled my own blood for girls... and its not worth it. Just move on if it doesnt work. Dont get hung up.
Judgement.
THe only way to find out if a chick likes you is by asking her to a movie. Actually there are a couple ways. See if you ask her to a movie than you can pretend its either to go on a date or just as friends. You dont have to specify.
The other way is just be nice and see how she responds. If you give her a hug when your saying good bye and she likes it and you can feel she is giving you a hug(youll know) than that means there might be more. (Im sorta a whore for hugs though and basically everyone gets one)
If you two talk alot in school or whereever than there is another indication. If she sees you and gets all happy and decides to come to you to talk and say hi, another good indication.
Just look into her eyes one day when your talking. And if she is smiling and seems to be floating on every word you say than thats a good sign she is into you.
One advice you should follow though is not to let the moment slip by. From personal experience I know that there are moments which you cant miss with a girl otherwise youll be screwed and stuck as friends for a while. Be a risk taker. If you feel the mood is right than try your hand at asking her.
And I just read your last post, this would be the best time to see how she feels. Dont make anything over the top. Just be nice and take it slow. And just watch yourself.
Oh and remember one more thing. I have heard this from my friend many times. There are plenty of fish in the ocean. What this means is, dont be sad about one girl. I know this. Its pointless. I have literally spilled my own blood for girls... and its not worth it. Just move on if it doesnt work. Dont get hung up.
Judgement.
CoLT
02 May 2007
Topic title changed to be a little more suitable.
I told her that it was simply the first one I saw. (It's the first scene in the play with those characters.) She wanted to play the part of Coral and it was Coral's first scene in the play. Still with me?
She DID start to say that there are other scenes in the play too and so we looked for others. However, we both agreed (or rather she did, surprisingly) to go back to the one I had chosen.
IF she thought anything about the selection, she didn't make it clear in any way.
We worked fairly quietly, not saying much. I think it's still just a little awkward but it is getting better, for sure. I don't know how to explain why I think this, though.
So really... not sure what to make of this. I think it's neutral but leaning to positive slightly in progress. I'll have to wait and see how this goes still.
I told her that it was simply the first one I saw. (It's the first scene in the play with those characters.) She wanted to play the part of Coral and it was Coral's first scene in the play. Still with me?
She DID start to say that there are other scenes in the play too and so we looked for others. However, we both agreed (or rather she did, surprisingly) to go back to the one I had chosen.
IF she thought anything about the selection, she didn't make it clear in any way.
We worked fairly quietly, not saying much. I think it's still just a little awkward but it is getting better, for sure. I don't know how to explain why I think this, though.
So really... not sure what to make of this. I think it's neutral but leaning to positive slightly in progress. I'll have to wait and see how this goes still.
Sgt. Nuker
02 May 2007
I would think it's positive just because she's still talking with you and willing to work with you. At the moment I think the situation is neutral, but it could get better.....I hope.
Her having a second thought about mentioning other scenes is a good sign. Makes me think that she's thinking "maybe he'd be great afterall".
Regards,
Nuker
Her having a second thought about mentioning other scenes is a good sign. Makes me think that she's thinking "maybe he'd be great afterall".
Regards,
Nuker
Saint
02 May 2007
Good luck. I for one would like to see a relationship go sucessful for once myself, but it's kinda hard these days to find someone who wouldnt cheat or lie about how they felt. Love is a hard thing to come by today, unless you can find the right person.
-Saint-
-Saint-
Whitey
02 May 2007
If only it were back like in Verona Italy, where a couple of 13 and 16 could fall in love one day and marry the next.

Sgt. Nuker
03 May 2007
Of Romeo and Juliet our good friend Leatherneck speaks
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Ah yes, if only life were as simple as one man's play script. Life's joys and tragedies acted out in mere hours and all for the enjoyment of others. Yes, if only life were as simple as this....

Ah yes, if only life were as simple as one man's play script. Life's joys and tragedies acted out in mere hours and all for the enjoyment of others. Yes, if only life were as simple as this....