151 replies to this topic

[Nem]

Thunderstruck, on 31 Aug 2008, 12:46, said:

Lets not get offended, fuck. Ya know what. I was merely trying to help ice the surface of a shite situation.

GET THE FUCK OUT YOU STUPID NOOB!

/prepared for a warn

[Dauth]

Topic split, off topic posts removed and locked.

[Ghostrider]

So I read that you staffers planned the strike, but why? What's the point of leaving of the forums for four days? I it was to prove that yes, we need you here, well we already knew that. If it was because you felt we were "staff bashing", I'd respond by saying no, we were offering our opinions for the better of the forums, and we apologize if it offended you (sincerely).

I'd just like to know the plan behind the madness, 'tis all.

[Crazykenny]

I'm having a deja vu, dont you?

[Mr. Mylo]

I hope that the staff will work , as they said, on some points alias posted... the strike is over, it was impressive and useless at the same time... well it was really entertaining I guess...

Looking forward to some changes and a peaceful E-s

Mr. Mylo

[Thunderstruck]

lol, split.... lol.

Hey Nem.... Whats ur damn problem with me? Trying to start a flame war?

Cuz it seems to me that everything I say and do, you have to go against it. The few times I act normal and logical, you freak out on me. I am merely trying to help things here.

I hope to never see you as admin. You are rough and crude, and rarely regard lower members opinions or actions.

That is what I have seen from you.

Edited by Thunderstruck, 31 August 2008 - 17:06.

[MR.Kim]

After I read this topic, I feel start angry. I don't want say this, but I must say this with my feeling.

WILL YOU STOP FOOLISHNESS AND BEHAVIOR YOURSELF!!! ALSO, STOP OFF TOPIC! I HATE THAT MUCH! GOT IT?! Geez...

[Thunderstruck]

I am trying to stay on topic. Nem always attacks me for some reason. He thinks I cannot be smart, and that I am dumb. Thanks MSN for helping me with that. And yes, this topic sucks. Nobody is getting anywhere.

[Ghostrider]

General K, on 31 Aug 2008, 13:07, said:

After I read this topic, I feel start angry. I don't want say this, but I must say this with my feeling.

WILL YOU STOP FOOLISHNESS AND BEHAVIOR YOURSELF!!! ALSO, STOP OFF TOPIC! I HATE THAT MUCH! GOT IT?! Geez...

Aye, mentlegen, I agree with the general here. Lest locky come in in all his blazing glory. Also, bump for my question:

Ghostrider, on 31 Aug 2008, 12:51, said:

So I read that you staffers planned the strike, but why? What's the point of leaving of the forums for four days? I it was to prove that yes, we need you here, well we already knew that. If it was because you felt we were "staff bashing", I'd respond by saying no, we were offering our opinions for the better of the forums, and we apologize if it offended you (sincerely).

I'd just like to know the plan behind the madness, 'tis all.

[Lizzie]

So would the admins like to explain to me why several posts right after the forum blackout were altered? One of those posts being my own?
I've heard from several staff members already that it wasn't the staff. However the Admins are, or consider themselves a notch above the staff so I suspect you, to be quite honest.

And don't tell me my post said what it said before the forum blackout. I got eyewitnesses.

Furthermore is all that your going to address going to be just the issue that Alias raised? With the Inactive staff?

[Thunderstruck]

There ya go. Thats what we should be doing.

[Dauth]

All warnings have been handed out with a single member, Nem, receiving a 2 week ban. This is information pertaining to the topic, but the punishments themselves are not for discussion.

[Thunderstruck]

Why is Nem banned? Is it his actions against me?

[Dauth]

Dauth, on 31 Aug 2008, 19:53, said:

the punishments themselves are not for discussion.

Was this not explicit?

[NewMessageN00b]

Heh, all it takes is to go offline for a few days and something big is happening at this place.

[Thunderstruck]

If it was for his actions against me, know this.

I am in no way offended or harmed by it. he merely made a statement. Whether based on truth or not, he has his rights. He has read some of my other posts/topics, and they were kinda giving him something to base those opinions on.

So, if that is the reason, just unban him.

If not, sorry nem.

[retry_1]

Thunderstruck, on 31 Aug 2008, 15:17, said:

If it was for his actions against me, know this.

I am in no way offended or harmed by it. he merely made a statement. Whether based on truth or not, he has his rights. He has read some of my other posts/topics, and they were kinda giving him something to base those opinions on.

So, if that is the reason, just unban him.

If not, sorry nem.

world doesn't revolve around you, pal.

main reason nem was banned:

Nem says:
*sighs*
PacMan says:
?
Nem says:
you guys edited that post and you know you did, at least 5 people saw it
PacMan says:
No we fucking didnt
Nem says:
Im not going to speak out but someone else might
Nem says:
just a word of warning
PacMan says:
yes it changed, but we dont knowwho
Nem says:
she did not say that!
PacMan says:
We have the change logs in that thread, the post was not edited by a staff or admin
Nem says:
yes well there are screens of the before and after as well
Nem says:
[url="http://forum.cncreneclips.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=27168&view=findpost&p=521255"]http://forum.cncreneclips.com/index.php?s=...st&p=521255[/url]
PacMan says:
No-one is saying it didn't changed... in fact in the MSN convo that the staffers were having, before everyone started talking about it, we commented upon it
Nem says:
you guys edited my post right there
Nem says:
and it does not say anyone did
PacMan says:
We merged the topics, thats all oO
Nem says:
changed the title  
PacMan says:
That will be in the logs
Nem says:
admit that it is highly probable that one of you edited it for personal reasons and does not want to say
Nem says:
and I can die and peace and never speak of it again
PacMan says:
Nem, for fuck sake, no-one on the moderating team edited the post
PacMan says:
if we were gonna go round editing posts, I think there would have been posts we would have targeted first..
Nem says:
-_-
Nem says:
it is impossible that a member did it and duplicating the forum did not cause it to change
Nem says:
it had to have come from someone with moderators powers
Nem says:
admit that at least
PacMan says:
We know
PacMan says:
no it didnt
Nem says:
...
PacMan says:
Nem, grow up, no-one on the moderating team edited that post
Nem says:
You know someone did just admit it!
Nem says:
and this never has to be talked about again
PacMan says:
I already have you 'tard
Nem says:
"no it didnt"
PacMan says:
[16:57:43] Nem: it had to have come from someone with moderators powers
PacMan says:
[16:57:56] PacMan: no it didnt
Nem says:
yes im trying to get you to admit someone on the inside did
PacMan says:
I never said it didnt get changed, it just wasnt changed by us
Nem says:
but it had to be one of you because there was no tag..
Nem says:
BAH.
Nem says:
whatever
PacMan says:
...
Nem says:
this is why there are outbreaks
PacMan says:
If it was one of us, it would still appear in the log, there was nothing in the log
PacMan says:
No, thread about revolutions is why outbreaks happen
Nem says:
whats more likely the log being screwed with or some member editing it somehow?
PacMan says:
threads*
Nem says:
the thread was not about a revolution  
PacMan says:
Could have fooled me
Nem says:
subject change
Nem says:
like I said whatever
PacMan says:
Truth hurts, don't it?
Nem says:
Hurts?
Nem says:
LOL
Nem says:
What would hurt?
Nem says:
this forum needs a revoultuon if it had been one then it would not hurt
Nem says:
because of things like this
PacMan says:
If you dont like the way things are run on ES, just STFU and GTFO
Nem says:
all you had to do was tell the truth  
PacMan says:
We are, you 'tard
Nem says:
its impossible that it was group A so it must be group B
Nem says:
yes, nothing to say because you know it
PacMan says:
Wow, your amazing nem-logic infallible
Nem says:
I dont need logic when there is a 100% chance
PacMan says:
is*
PacMan says:
Nem, grow up
Nem says:
Mabye then I will ignore lies and coverups?
PacMan says:
Maybe you'll stop being a one-tracked minded fucktard

[Crazykenny]

EDIT: Nevermind

Edited by Crazykenny, 31 August 2008 - 19:26.

[Whitey]

Wow. Bob, control your temper. Whether someone is pestering you or not, you ought not to resort to such garbage.

-Boidy

[Slightly Wonky Robob]

MSN != E-Studios

So:

1. That was not the reason Nem was banned, we don't police MSN
2. I can do what the hell I like on my MSN account, MSN should be private

Now I believe Dauth has already said to stay on topic... So let's listen, shall we?

[Eddy01741]

The way I see it, the strike and the debate happened at the same time, which caused absolutely catastrophic results. So alias started a topic of his observations about the staffers/mods that were incompetent, then some of the less content members started basically bashing them and second questioning everything they did. THe next day, the staffers/mods go on a secret strike, and since all the people are already semi-pissed off at the mods and watching their every move to try an d criticize them when they get the chance, one member notices that the mods/staffers weren't on the hwole day because of the debate, and the war ensues.

Bottom line, if it wasn't for the awful timing of the strike (at the same time as the alias topics), nobody would have cared at all. Now since you guys didn't call off the strike even when you knew that the results would be disasterous, look at what you have done.

All I have to say is that both sides are to blame. One side for letting themselves get out of controls without the supervision of mods because of the ensuing arguement/war against the mods, and the other for not calling off an ill timed strike.

That is all I have to say.

[Lizzie]

I have to agree. If the staff wanted to test us by disappearing, fine. But not right in the middle of the membership discussing their issues with the staff. It honestly made the staff look pretty bad when they did that, which was part of the reason why everyone went nuts when they disappeared.

It sends the unintended message of "Well screw you, we aren't playing anymore and we are taking our ball with us". Which doesn't help relations any.

Everyone screwed up.

[WarMenace]

I knew some of the strike sometime yesterday, though some people tried to spam me to tell, like Kid, lol jk. But I just left because I had it with everyone calling me all sorts of crap, and today I logged in with a "warn" from Bob, and 2 members were banned. I'm pretty sure a lot of other people got a warn, but oh well...

[retry_1]

WarMenace, on 31 Aug 2008, 17:43, said:

I knew some of the strike sometime yesterday, though some people tried to spam me to tell, like Kid, lol jk. But I just left because I had it with everyone calling me all sorts of crap, and today I logged in with a "warn" from Bob, and 2 members were banned. I'm pretty sure a lot of other people got a warn, but oh well...

spammed you to tell? youre the damn one saying "i know___ but you don't!"
you got a warn because you weren't letting arguments die, and were basicly trolling the whole time.

[WarMenace]

retry_1, on 31 Aug 2008, 16:46, said:

WarMenace, on 31 Aug 2008, 17:43, said:

I knew some of the strike sometime yesterday, though some people tried to spam me to tell, like Kid, lol jk. But I just left because I had it with everyone calling me all sorts of crap, and today I logged in with a "warn" from Bob, and 2 members were banned. I'm pretty sure a lot of other people got a warn, but oh well...

spammed you to tell? youre the damn one saying "i know___ but you don't!"
you got a warn because you weren't letting arguments die, and were basicly trolling the whole time.

That was a joke, and it was obvious to some people, hey everyone was just spamming in there I thought I would just play along.