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[Sgt. Nuker]

I've reached a good portion of the tanks I know I'll be keeping (or will want to keep) if I ever get the game: M4, M4A3E8, T29, Tiger I, Jadgpanther, IS-2, IS-3, IS-4. I do have the King Tiger unlocked, but the funds are a bit on the short side. I am currently 130k exp away from the Obyekt 704. The Pershing is far and away from where my T20 is currently, so as much as I would love to have the tank, I will not be reaching it before the launch.

[NergiZed]

This is the CBT gift tanks for the US, Russia get some KV variant, and I'm not sure what the Europe gets.

More info here

specs:

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Gift Tank for World of Tanks CBT-participants
M4A2E4 is going to be a gift tank for the participants of WOT closed beta.

M4A2E4 is a tier 5 US medium tank [premium].
The two M4A2s built by General Motors Corporation in 1943, both featured a wide track torsion bar suspension. The first tank was completed on 22 July and the second on 15 August.

Preliminary specs:
Hull: 64/38/38
Turret: 76/51/51
Gun: 75mm M3L/37

Kinda meh

Edited by NergiZed, 27 March 2011 - 01:57.

[V.Metalic]

Obyekt 220, personally I dont know how different it is from KV.

[Soul]

Man upgrading my KV is proving to be difficult since the matchmaking keeps throwing me against tier 7 and 8 tanks. I can't even get a kill since my default gun can't do shit to anyone I get put against.

[V.Metalic]

Soul, on 27 Mar 2011, 16:01, said:

Man upgrading my KV is proving to be difficult since the matchmaking keeps throwing me against tier 7 and 8 tanks. I can't even get a kill since my default gun can't do shit to anyone I get put against.

Keep trying, and eventually you will fight against small tanks

[NergiZed]

Soul, on 27 Mar 2011, 12:01, said:

Man upgrading my KV is proving to be difficult since the matchmaking keeps throwing me against tier 7 and 8 tanks. I can't even get a kill since my default gun can't do shit to anyone I get put against.

Once you get the top guns for the KV you can either turn into one of the best non-TD snipers in the game, or into a tank destroyer of sorts (cept with hilariously long reload but with even more hilarious burst damage)

But yeah, the KV grind is terrible.

[V.Metalic]

Why you think that Soviets havent continued in KV-series? Because it was heavier and more expensive, yet with the same arnament like T-34. This was the reason to create IS tanks, one of the reasons.

[Dispenser]

Yeah, the worst part about KV is the time before you can get the 122mm and the further guns. Before that though... try to remember to keep a nice load of HE for chipping high tiers for little money/exp, and try to hang back to hinder the enemy scouts, you're not fast enough to manouver much in the frontline, and your armor isn't much against the high calibers.

When you do get the lucky draw and get put against tiers 3-5 only, go nuts, your only real threats are TD's, SPGs and the other t5's. the t3-4 tanks have almost nothing on you, aside from t-28 with the 85mm, PzIII and M5 stuart with the snub-guns, and M3 Lee (although A-20 with the high piercing gun can go through the rear plate, so watch for that...)

[NergiZed]

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cool stuff, the KV-5 looks very interesting. It's got a decent gun which is basically a faster-firing more accurate version of the 107mm ZiS-6 on the KV and KV-3, and armor out the wazoo. (too bad it lacks any real sloped armor and turns really slow (both chassis and turret)... I guess it's basically a tier 7 Maus (It's only got 8 Horsepower per ton ). Definitely gonna get it.

Edited by NergiZed, 02 April 2011 - 04:59.

[Sgt. Nuker]

I'll take the Lowe, thank you.

The Sherman..........oh how I wish those stats were better. Poor penetration, poor damage, poor accuracy. It really isn't much better than the Pz IV's L/48 7,5cm cannon, as far as accuracy goes, and it sure doesn't hit as hard. So this is what the devs are looking to stick the Americans with...........awesome.

[Soul]

I agree with Nuker on this, we got a pretty terrible tank.

[Sgt. Nuker]

It isn't really "horrible", but it is lackluster in being "special". The gun sucks because that's the first gun the Lee gets, and that's a tier 4 gun. So it'll be a tier 5 premium tank with a tier 4 gun, probably placed in matches from tier 5-7. This means it will be useless (or next to useless) in roughly half of its matches.

[NergiZed]

Well, it is a free tank which comes in a free slot.

I will definitely use it to help grind through the first three tiers but that's it.

Also, Lowe and KV-5 may be kinda awesome, but they all cost real money.

Sad thing is, I kinda want both along with the 38H. :(

Looks like I'm going to have to part with a few dollars, but I think I'll still get the KV-5 first.

Edit: Also, just got the Geschutzwagon Tiger. I didn't have enough xp to upgrade the treds yet, so it turns really slow (the radio and engine upgrades carry over from previous tanks). So far it's basically an even slower, high damage-dealing S-51 and I don't like it as much. S-51 at least has minor armor, is a comparatively smaller target and is actually rather nimble and can reposition quickly and almost always avoid a counter-barrage, GW Tiger really can'y cause you're driving an oil tanker. Plus the GW Panther is simply so much better than the GW Tiger, that thing can go like 45 and turn on a dime, plus it's got a turret. (Best thing ever)

I think I've generally discovered that the most fun and profitable tanks and tDs are tier 5, the most fun and profitable arty are tier 7.

Edited by NergiZed, 02 April 2011 - 19:40.

[Soul]

38H is so broken .

Me NergiZed played and won most of our matches , got hit by two arty shells at once in one match and lived with only 4 health left XD.

Edited by Soul, 02 April 2011 - 19:44.

[Sgt. Nuker]

Well, while you're spending money on a "free" game, I'll be saving mine and admiring from a distance, my great tank battles and many fun times, sinking into the sands of time.

If the Russian devs wouldn't nerf every single tank that wasn't Russian, I'd have a little easier time rationalizing spending money on this game. There are days I'd like to, but then there's the camo bug, the fact that the T29 got a nerf it didn't truly deserve, a T-54 that has far too much armour on the front and maneuverability that outmatches this fact (not to mention its 108% armour bonus), AND, even though Overlord states that the next patch is bringing with it "a lot of balance changes", the T32 is also apparently getting a nerf (I bet the rate of fire is going to plummet drastically).

So, good luck mate, because as of right now, you're looking to spend money on a broken product. Last I checked, if something purchased was broken, it was returned for a refund.

[V.Metalic]

T-54 is actually a next generation of tanks, and it actually had this armour, as I remember.

[ultra1437]

V.Metalic, on 2 Apr 2011, 19:45, said:

T-54 is actually a next generation of tanks, and it actually had this armour, as I remember.

Actually, no it's not a next gen tank, it's a hybrid of two versions of the tank (oddly enough, the 'elite' final version of the turret and gun were far outside the 1950's hardcap for timeline, produced in ~1962 i believe). The heavier armored version of the tank has the armor it currently has, but a weaker gun, and roughly half the top speed of the current one; while the faster version had the current speed, and armament of the WoT T-54, it had about 30-50mm less armor all around (except in the rear of the hull, which was the same on both versions). It was and is a first generation MBT, with the germans and americans getting nothing near what it's capabilities are. (the pershing and Panther2 are really a tier lower than it in all consideration, evening up the odds for the americans would probably add the m48? patton to the tier 9, dropping the pershing to tier 8, and combining the t20 and t23, not sure what would make a good addition for the germans)

[Sgt. Nuker]

V.Metalic, on 2 Apr 2011, 19:45, said:

T-54 is actually a next generation of tanks, and it actually had this armour, as I remember.

Your memory is a bit rusty, but as Ultra has stated, the T-54 in-game is an amalgamation of two different variants smashed together to combine all of the positives, while having none of the negatives. The T-54 in-game has the 120mm front plate, however, field tests showed that this front glacis placed too much strain on the front torsion bars, so a new, 99mm glacis was standardized for production. Because of the thinner front glacis, weight dropped, and performance went up as a result.

As far as the Germans go, this link might help direct imagination to "what could have been": Schwarzwolf

There is talk of the Pershing being placed at tier 8 (where it should make a killing), and adding the M47/M48 Patton tanks for tier 9.

Edited by Sgt. Nuker, 03 April 2011 - 02:30.

[V.Metalic]

Patton was designed long after the war, but T-54... I dont actually know ehn they designed it, but it was the upgradd T-44, it has the same chassis.... what T-44 has when fully upgraded is technically first version of T-54. Or thats what I have heard.

[Sgt. Nuker]

The Patton tanks fall within the game's set timeline (which is why it is being considered as a tier 9 addition) from the onset of WWII, to Korea. The T-54 was designed around that time as well, but if memory serves, the T-54 did not enjoy a long service history and the T-55 replaced it in rather short order.

[V.Metalic]

Sgt. Nuker, on 4 Apr 2011, 4:56, said:

The Patton tanks fall within the game's set timeline (which is why it is being considered as a tier 9 addition) from the onset of WWII, to Korea. The T-54 was designed around that time as well, but if memory serves, the T-54 did not enjoy a long service history and the T-55 replaced it in rather short order.

True, but still T-54/55 has nearly the same chassis as T-44

Why no one mentioned a new contest to design your own tank? Thats quite "important", isnt it?

[Sgt. Nuker]

The chassis isn't completely the "same". The T-44 and T-54 have the same low-profile stance, but there are differences between the two that prevent them from being the same.

[NergiZed]

Just the T-54 alone had like 5 variations before they transitioned to the T-55. There was the prototype with a turret like the T-44 and a 100mm gun. The T-54-1 production model, which lacked the signiture dome turret of the T-54/55 and was slower than the T-44 as it used the same engine but it was heavier, the T-54-2 production model, which has the dome turret, refitting the MG into the turret, more chassis armor and less turret armor but more speed. Then there's the T-54A, B and and the command K variant.

But yeah, T-54, especially after it enters full-scale production, does not have the same chassis as the T-44. They unarmored it significantly, and modernized a lot of the innards.

[V.Metalic]

What are these changes on the chassis whick makes it so different? In the first versions. And I speak about the chassis, not its engine or equipment.

Edited by V.Metalic, 04 April 2011 - 18:03.

[Sgt. Nuker]

"Trials conducted between March and April 1945 resulted in the new tank being commissioned for service with the Red Army as the T-54. The tank had virtually the same hull and drive train as the T-44. Major differences included thicker front armour (120 mm on the upper section and 90 mm on the lower section) and a newly designed driver's hatch and vision slot. The turret ring increased in diameter to 1800 mm and had thicker armour (180 mm on the front, between 90 mm and 150 mm on the sides and 30 mm on the roof)."

Visually the same, however, the T-54's chassis had some tweaks to it that make it unique to the T-54, and not the T-44. The chassis designs are very close, but not "the same".