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[Libains]

Liten, on 10 February 2012 - 18:16, said:

^1:02 A wild Miranda appeard. I thought she'd side with Cerberus against Sheppard, this game is full of suprises

Could depend on if you seduced her last time, feelings tend to > orders.

[Liten]

AJ, on 10 February 2012 - 19:50, said:

Liten, on 10 February 2012 - 18:16, said:

^1:02 A wild Miranda appeard. I thought she'd side with Cerberus against Sheppard, this game is full of suprises

Could depend on if you seduced her last time, feelings tend to > orders.

Well bugger, then I'd have to redo another save where I seduce her instead of staying true with Liara. Damn you BioWare

[Raven]

btw Origin reset my region to India, so I am seeing the old prices again. I might get this game legitimately after all .

I seduced her on my last play through .

[Liten]

Demo is here lads, get it here: http://masseffect.bi...com/about/demo/

Not only is it a Singleplayer demo, it actually has the multiplayer Co-Op! Gogogogogoogogogogogo get it now!

[CJ]

Liten, on 15 February 2012 - 19:20, said:

Demo is here lads, get it here: http://masseffect.bi...com/about/demo/

Not only is it a Singleplayer demo, it actually has the multiplayer Co-Op! Gogogogogoogogogogogo get it now!

Demo was here for 3 days now, for BF3 owners at least
And it's 2 hours long, longest demo I'll ever get to play =o

[Sgt. Rho]

2 hours? I was through it in 30 minutes O,o

But I have to say: Damn that atmosphere in the first mission.

Warning: Spoilers ahead.

When the shuttle with the kid got shot down, and later the gigantic debris field, it's the frist time in quite a while that a game truely invoked a feeling of sadness.

[Alias]

I'll pass for now.

For starters, cbf with 2 hours. Secondly, Origin.

[Raven]

I did not get the chance to use my PC for 2 days. So could not play the demo. On the other hand i don't want to spoil my self with the demo. btw, how does the coop work? is it good?

[Wanderer]

The access to the coop is locked (unless you've got bf3 preorder) until tomorrow

[deltaepsilon]

The co-op isn't bad. Games consist of fighting off waves of enemies (which ramp up in numbers over time). You choose your character class and customise your character (both similarly to the single player); e.g upgrading their powers/abilities, and use XP earned from games to get stuff like new weapons.

[Libains]

Sgt. Rho, on 15 February 2012 - 22:20, said:

2 hours? I was through it in 30 minutes O,o

But I have to say: Damn that atmosphere in the first mission.

Got to agree with the timeframe, it really didn't take me all that long to get through at all. Might replay with a different class for shits and giggles though. The melee system seems quite nice, but it was lacking the nice shiny blade, and the ability to attack without being murdered by everyone else. The tweaks to the cover system are quite nice (the little arrows pointing which direction you're going to roll/dive/etc towards, but ME was already very proficient in this area so not much to change anyways. All in all, highly accomplished, great looking environments, and Vanguard is still totally utterly useless aside from extremely specialised scenarios (which makes me very sad).

[Chyros]

I'm going to abstain from this for now, considering I'm trying to avoid spoilers, though I'm glad to hear the game hasn't lost its atmosphere .

[Liten]

Chyros, on 16 February 2012 - 12:04, said:

I'm going to abstain from this for now, considering I'm trying to avoid spoilers, though I'm glad to hear the game hasn't lost its atmosphere .

Get it for the Co-Op! And there are no huge spoilers in it anyway, just missions they've already shown on game previews n stuff.

[deltaepsilon]

I agree, I think there would be many fun moments to be had in the co-op.

[Anubis]

Lol ... 2 hours. At most 35 min with cinematics and all. I played the demo as 2 classes, the sentinel and the infiltrator. For people who wanna play the infiltrator - DON'T. In the demo you have no sniper rifle so it's a failed class in it. As for the game. Well ... wow ... if bioware is doing the RPG publicity again they are eating a huge pile of shit. The only difference between their rpg and action mods is the dialog and character power evolution. But if you played Me2 than ME3 is just a improved graphics version. As a single player interactive movie game, it looks epic. As an RPG - LOL. It has as much rpg in it as the starcraft 2 campaign. Also since this is a pre-order bonus game, no money from me. I am sick of this crap. Pre-order dudes get bonus content for usualy reduced price, while normal buyers get reduced content ( even though that content is in the game 0.o ) and pay full price. So yeah, if you want modern warfare in space - ME is the game. Looks fun, but ain't worth the money, for shit tons of reasons imo.

[General]

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

Lol ... 2 hours. At most 35 min with cinematics and all. I played the demo as 2 classes, the sentinel and the infiltrator. For people who wanna play the infiltrator - DON'T. In the demo you have no sniper rifle so it's a failed class in it. As for the game. Well ... wow ... if bioware is doing the RPG publicity again they are eating a huge pile of shit. The only difference between their rpg and action mods is the dialog and character power evolution. But if you played Me2 than ME3 is just a improved graphics version. As a single player interactive movie game, it looks epic. As an RPG - LOL. It has as much rpg in it as the starcraft 2 campaign. Also since this is a pre-order bonus game, no money from me. I am sick of this crap. Pre-order dudes get bonus content for usualy reduced price, while normal buyers get reduced content ( even though that content is in the game 0.o ) and pay full price. So yeah, if you want modern warfare in space - ME is the game. Looks fun, but ain't worth the money, for shit tons of reasons imo.

so what exactly worths your precious money Mr. Anubis ?

[Liten]

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

Lol ... 2 hours. At most 35 min with cinematics and all

Singleplayer content, yes. There's a Multiplayer mode too in the demo if you weren't smart enough to read through this page before you posted this, which you obviosly weren't.
(It unlocks tomorrow if you don't own BF3, just so you know)

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

I played the demo as 2 classes, the sentinel and the infiltrator. For people who wanna play the infiltrator - DON'T. In the demo you have no sniper rifle so it's a failed class.

It's not a failed class because it lacks the Sniper rifles, tactical cloak + sub machine guns tend to work really well in combination with, say, Liara's Singularity.

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

As for the game. Well ... wow ... if bioware is doing the RPG publicity again they are eating a huge pile of shit. The only difference between their rpg and action mods is the dialog and character power evolution.

Yes, and this is clearly stated in the choosing screen. There is nothing wrong with it, it gives players who only like the action part of ME to skip the dialouge choices so they can play it as a shooter, or let those who prefer to focus more on the story and character progression to have more of that without having to pew pew all the time.

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

But if you played Me2 than ME3 is just a improved graphics version

No, just no. It's got a brand new melee attack, you can now roll around from cover to cover and because of that, the combat feels more fluid in general. They also switched to another health system, which was a good move. Now you actually have a reason to use health packs on yourself rather then only when your squadmates died.

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

As a single player interactive movie game, it looks epic. As an RPG - LOL. It has as much rpg in it as the starcraft 2 campaign.

Dialouge choices that matters, character creation, customisation options for your armor, weapons and characters, a decent story, choices from previous games affect how your current game unfolds, charcter progressions, quests (AKA missions) side quests and tertiary quests. Sounds like an RPG to me.

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

Also since this is a pre-order bonus game, no money from me. I am sick of this crap. Pre-order dudes get bonus content for usualy reduced price, while normal buyers get reduced content ( even though that content is in the game 0.o ) and pay full price.

Go pre-order the game then, as you said you get more content for less money. No reason in complaning when it benefits you.

Anubis, on 16 February 2012 - 20:17, said:

So yeah, if you want modern warfare in space - ME is the game. Looks fun, but ain't worth the money, for shit tons of reasons imo.

I'm not even going to bother with this one, for shit tons of reasons IMO.

[Anubis]

Liten - first of all, insult my intelect again and i will show you how smart i can be. CJ NEVER posted the multiplayer part, which obviosly you weren't smart enough to even read. But cheap insults are apparently the new shit on the forum street. In fact before your co-op comment no one mentioned a multiplayer. But then again some people do feel to important for their own sake. As for your other quotes, first of all i was saying my own opinion. Like it fine, don't like it fine again, but at least learn to respect it. Which is again something your clearly not equiped with - respect. Now to actualy answer some of those quotes. Perhaps you are not a fan of RPG's in general. But for someone like me RPG's are 1 of my most favorite genres. Having a game where you just evolve your character with some abilities is not an RPG. In starcraft 2 i evolved after each mission, but instead of experience i got money to upgrade my army, which in a rts game is my character. You call a new melee attack and movement fluidity change. LOL. No wonder CoD games are the same. Seems that if you give players 1 more gun, and 2 more attack movements it's called evolution. Also you call ME armor system customization. Again ... you clearly don't play much rpg's. You have a fixed number of guns you can take ( 1 of each class ) and some armor components that you can ONLY customize at fixed points in the game. The idea of an rpg dude is to allow you to customize you gameplay at any given time, which is why they invented that so cool feature called inventory. OFC in a interactive movie that would make many players have to much choice and melt their brains.
And again, you dont know me. I dont know you. Show respect in your posts, cause i'm not in the mood to start flame wars.

[Sgt. Rho]

Anubis, on 17 February 2012 - 04:58, said:

Having a game where you just evolve your character with some abilities is not an RPG.

That is exactly what an RPG is.

Anubis, on 17 February 2012 - 04:58, said:

The idea of an rpg dude is to allow you to customize you gameplay at any given time

The idea of an RPG ultimately runs down to you making decisions and taking control of a character in a fictional setting...

[Libains]

You know what, there was a day when I thought I'd never have to intervene in one of these silly bickering posts over games ever again (the last debacle over Black Ops had, I hoped, been the last). Honestly, Liten, Anubis, there is absolutely no good reason to start bitching at each other over the game. You both need to respect each other's opinion and try and discuss it without cheap personal jibes. This goes for the opening content in Liten's post, and the beginning and end of Anubis'. I will also absolutely not have people slinging threats around the forum, which goes specifically for you, Anubis, I have no idea what you mean by 'Liten - first of all, insult my intelect again and i will show you how smart i can be' but it honestly doesn't ring well in my books. So please just debate the topic without ruining it, k?

In other news, Bioware are launching copies of ME3 into space with GPS trackers attached, and are then being released about a week before the general release. Roadtrip times? http://www.theverge....h-early-release

[Anubis]

What i meant is that i can sure as hell insult of needed. It's not like i'm threatning his well being lol. As for keeping it down, funny how things turned against me while some people are allowed to insult without being told anything. As for my end of the post, i dont see how asking for respect suddently became an offense but w/e.
Rho - no that is not. By that definition just about any shooter or single player rts campaign today can pass as a rpg. The RPG genre is probably one of the most, if not the most complex genre of games, and making a game part of it takes alot of features. The ideea of an rpg is to role play, not participate in scripted movie sequences. Role playing a character means having A LOT of customization just for the fact that each experience must be unique and allow the player to have as many options as possible. That is an RPG, not a take 1 gun, shoot many guys while looking at just about as much scripted action sequences as you have actual gameplay. And this is not my opinion, this is prety much the definition of rpg games in any gamedesign class/book, review or w/e you want to read.

[CJ]

I'm interested in knowing what kind of games you consider as RPGs then, Anubis. The WItcher, Dragon Age: Origins, Skyrim, Fallout... All of these play the same as Mass Effect, no matter how many options you seem to have, you'll still end up having to save the world by killing the bad guys.

[General]

CJ, on 17 February 2012 - 12:36, said:

I'm interested in knowing what kind of games you consider as RPGs then, Anubis. The WItcher, Dragon Age: Origins, Skyrim, Fallout... All of these play the same as Mass Effect, no matter how many options you seem to have, you'll still end up having to save the world by killing the bad guys.

Indeed. %99 of the games copy each other, and sometimes, once a while something new comes out.
Games which totally original and breathtaking may be in number of a dozen or so.

[CJ]

General, on 17 February 2012 - 12:46, said:

CJ, on 17 February 2012 - 12:36, said:

I'm interested in knowing what kind of games you consider as RPGs then, Anubis. The WItcher, Dragon Age: Origins, Skyrim, Fallout... All of these play the same as Mass Effect, no matter how many options you seem to have, you'll still end up having to save the world by killing the bad guys.

Indeed. %99 of the games copy each other, and sometimes, once a while something new comes out.
Games which totally original and breathtaking may be in number of a dozen or so.

More like 1 in 200, look at the release list of Steam, you'll only find silly simulators there

[Ion Cannon!]

Mass Effect ceased to be an RPG after when the second game was released. It is simply now an action game with RPG elements. While TW2, DAO have the same mechanics as ME2/3 they go into them in alot more depth. In ME your decisions matter yes, and have very obvious consequences. In a game like TW2 often your choices can have unintended consequences, the moral choices are also alot more grey than pitch black and angelic white. Likewise you have a small manner of customisation in ME2, but no where near the level you could achieve in the first game or indeed TW2 or DAO. Furthermore while all games have cutscenes, all to often with the action game genre the coolest bits of the game are played in them , it takes control away from the player when it doesn't need to. RPG's also tend to award exploration, though this has been a diminishing trend recently.

I never understood the critical acclaim for ME2 and I doubt I ever will, the game is good yes, but hardly a classic.