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[General]

Pav:3d, on 02 March 2012 - 14:25, said:

My phone camera is kinda crappy, but here you go:

http://i.imgur.com/pYxdr.jpg

Its not fantastic, but its better than the alliance one imo

Looks better with that black color.

[Raven]

Thanks paved..this certainly looks better. I have a friend coming down from UK. Time to ring him up I suppose...

[Raven]

The Epic Launch Trailer is here.....behold!!!

Get Ready

New reputation system is tweaked and you can't be a Villain. This is a tad bit worrying for me.

Edited by Raven, 03 March 2012 - 05:38.

[Chyros]

Raven, on 03 March 2012 - 05:34, said:

New reputation system is tweaked and you can't be a Villain. This is a tad bit worrying for me.

Why? IMO this is perfectly justifiable.

[CJ]

Chyros, on 03 March 2012 - 12:27, said:

Raven, on 03 March 2012 - 05:34, said:

New reputation system is tweaked and you can't be a Villain. This is a tad bit worrying for me.

Why? IMO this is perfectly justifiable.

And it's actually been like this in the whole series. I don't recall having an option to join Saren or to keep the collectors base for myself...

[Raven]

There was an option to destroy or keep the collector base though, which should be important. The ending background changes accordingly (Renegade or Paragon) if I remember right.

Also in ME2, there were some options where your team members get killed or you fail the mission entirely. Perhaps this might still be the case. My first impression was that these elements were removed. But it seems that it isn't.

Edited by Raven, 03 March 2012 - 13:13.

[Chyros]

CJ, on 03 March 2012 - 12:48, said:

Chyros, on 03 March 2012 - 12:27, said:

Raven, on 03 March 2012 - 05:34, said:

New reputation system is tweaked and you can't be a Villain. This is a tad bit worrying for me.

Why? IMO this is perfectly justifiable.

And it's actually been like this in the whole series. I don't recall having an option to join Saren or to keep the collectors base for myself...

Exactly! I seriously don't see the big change here tbh.

Raven, on 03 March 2012 - 13:03, said:

There was an option to destroy or keep the collector base though, which should be important. The ending background changes accordingly (Renegade or Paragon) if I remember right.

This is true, but both would eventually serve to destroy the Reapers.

[General]

Raven, on 03 March 2012 - 05:34, said:

The Epic Launch Trailer is here.....behold!!! Get Ready New reputation system is tweaked and you can't be a Villain. This is a tad bit worrying for me.

Wow, having sex even while too busy saving the whole galaxy...
Edit : Oh wait, why not?....

Edited by General, 03 March 2012 - 16:16.

[Raven]

I think Chyros typed while I was editing

[Raven]

This news worries me a bit to be honest. Why the hell should we play the co-op missions to improve the readiness level. MP should be unobtrusive to the SP IMO. Wtf is this? I still did not buy this game and I am sort of furious right now. Did any one play this yet to have a good idea about it?

Edited by Raven, 07 March 2012 - 12:46.

[Chyros]

^That is the lamest bullshit I have ever heard of. Is there no end to EA's shittiness?

[Sgt. Rho]

They will do anything as long as enough people buy their games and DLCs. I'm not giving them another cent, and will wait until ME3 is on Ebay or so if I buy it at all.

[Raven]

Well...this clears things up a bit....but I am not too hopeful...

[Sgt. Rho]

I'm playing it right now. So far it's great fun. It plays a lot more like ME1, has the same "Interactable" Icon ME1 has, and the same system for weapons, with the 2 upgrade slots. What disturbs me tho is, Vega has bigger moobs than femshep has boobs.

Edited by Sgt. Rho, 07 March 2012 - 21:00.

[Sgt. Rho]

Right now I'm tempted to give ME3 a -100 of 10 and forever erase if from my harddrive. *spoilers, and rant, ahead*

Spoiler

Destroying the reaper base has to have the most retarded boss fight I've ever seen. You're supposed to kill a reaper with the laser designator...all nice and shiny so far. However, you have to hit it 4 times. 3 times "normally" and then once again in slow-motion. You can't save between any of those 4 times, and I have no idea how to lase the Reaper before its beam of death fucking desintegrates me at the end in the slow-motion sequence.

Did I mention you can't take cover?

Failed attempts: 13. Make that 20.

And yes I mad.

/rant

Edited by AJ, 08 March 2012 - 18:51.

[Libains]

I've put that in spoiler tags whilst desperately not trying to read it. Those things are there for a reason mate, and I don't think anyone here wants to know about it just yet

[Sgt. Rho]

I warned about spoilers tho

[Libains]

Yeah but people keep reading anyways Curse you lot who got the game early :(

[Liten]

Check if it havn't unlocked for you AJ, my copy unlocked at midnight last night. It was totaly worth not going to sleep to be able to instantly play it once it got available

As for the game, about 7 hours in and I'm enjoying it so far. Hate the shitloads of sidequests that I keep losing track of though >.< On another note, I just acquired full Galaxy readiness if I do some Multiplayer before I finish the game, if anyone's up for it just message me. I'm on most of the day because I've got nothing better to do

[Sgt. Rho]

I finally beat that mission. FUCK YEA.

Spoiler

So the Protheans are very much like the Tollan from Stargate...Jaimaican/Haiitian Tollan...only a different Species entirely.

Javik: "It was amusing."
Shepard: "Oh?"
Javik: "To see the primitive species of my time rule the galaxy. The Asari, the Humans, the Turians..."
Liara: "There's also the Salarians."
Javik: "The lizardpeople evolved?"
Liara: "I believe they are Amphibians."
Javik: *smiles* "They used to eat Flies."
Damn Protheans.
Went Tollan on everyone else.

WHAT. Seriously, WHAT?!

Spoiler

Biggest deus-ex-machina I've ever seen. Galaxy-wide in fact.

Everyone dies, then you teleport to the citadel, get to shoot Ilusive Man, the citadel unfolds like a flower some time after the Crucible docks to it...then a VI or AI or a ghost even talks to you how the Reapers are its solution to the chaos that organics impose.

Then you shoot some power conduit.
The citadel explodes, the mass relays explode, the normandy explodes, the crucible sends a shockwave through the galaxy and all synthetics explode...then some guy telling his son a story about shepard.

After the credits you get a message "Shepard became a legend by ending the reapers blablabla and you can extend that legend with more gameplay and downloadable content."

*bling*

We're on the Normandy again! Joker's there, everyone else who died is there...but all that just exploded!

Bioware I am dissapoint.

Edited by Sgt. Rho, 09 March 2012 - 12:42.

[Anubis]

Wow .... i just finished this game like 5 hours ago. It's hard to expres the amount of dissapointment, but damn, i have lost the last trace of fate i had left in crap-o-ware. I will start with the end though, because for me that was the biggest dissapointment. Seriously ... bioware needs to hire someone who can write a story better than a 15 years old virgin with to much porn and lsd in his brain. To put it short ( HUGE SPOILER ) - the reapers were the solution of a ancient AI to organic chaos. Sounds cool, but ingame story it goes like this - the ancient ai created the reapers ( machines - synthetics ) to end organic civilizations before those civilizations can create other synthetics that would destroy them - the civilizations O.o . Like ... wow ... this beats even C&C4 ending for me. It would've been acceptable if they were just an ancient race that made sure organics never get the tech to threaten them, or they just needed advanced organic life for multiplication and tech harverst, but really. Synthetics killed organics so they dont create other synthetics that would kill the same organics. Now moving to actual gameplay final. I enjoyed the ME2 finale mission system that had an ending based on how much stuff you did in the game. However in ME3, no matter wtf you do and how much shit you unlock in the game, the end will be the same. I spent literaly hours of boring searching for every war asset in the game. I unlocked EVERY damn thing possible. Hell my galactic readiness were way over the maximum limit. Yet the end is the same.
Another thing i tend to realize game makers do today is overcomplicate stuff that should be just some easy thing to do ( especialy when it has no actual importance in the end ), and simplify stuff that should be complicated. I will give a major example - they created this retarded system that when you scan a system where there are reapers they will detect you and come to rape your ass. This leads to hours of hit and run between systems to find war assets and upgrades, and all for nothing, while stuff like actual ingame action and even the end part is just scripted action sequences.
The RPG part in this game went a bit higher than in ME2, but except for an imrpoved weapons upgrade system and an improved ability tech tree, the rest is the same. Every armor component or weapon is either unlocked in a precise mission or from a shop at a exact time after some important mission. There is still no inventory and what you bring with you at the begining cannot be changed in most missions (except when you find a new weapon in that level) and prety much everything is extremly rigid and scripted. Basicly ME3 is a CoD with more story and more covers. Which reminds me - the new cover system is a real crap - most of the time you end up moving exactly the direction you dont want.
All in all, while the weapon/armor variety is a bit bigger and the weapon modules and improved abillity tech trees bring a bit of depth in the gameplay, the game itself is a total disapointment with shity taken gameplay decision by overcomplicating unimportant thing, having an extremly rigid gameplay and an end game that makes the C&C 4 one feel better.
In my opinion - don't buy it. Just wait for an extremly cheap version of it and if you really wanna play it, just use other means. And yes i encourage this shit with all my heart, because if bioware will do every possible stupid thing (inlcuding unloking ingame content via dlc though ITS FKIN THERE ALREADY ), then seriously ... why would i encourage buying their shit. If they spent more time in actualy making this game a awsome one instead of crating tons of publicity clips and spending tons of money in overhyping it, i bet the result woud've been alot different.
Sheppard out - literaly!

Edited by Anubis, 10 March 2012 - 12:35.

[General]

Goodamn after all these bad reviews, I seriously need to play it at once and see it for myself. But ffs I just go to retail store today and it say it didnt't arrive yet

[Libains]

OK, cue a mix of disbelief, annoyance, and love for Bioware. The rest of this is in spoiler tags as I will be referring to plot points/etc.

Spoiler

Right, disbelief and annoyance go hand in hand. Bioware have just seriously fucked with everybody that was ever invested in this game, and there is a reason a thread on the Bioware forums has reached 700 pages long with people bitching about the endings. Because they're all pretty fucking similar, and all end the same way (more or less) unless you're a workaholic that's played the multiplayer through until you're dead (speaking of which it's not bad just a little repetitive). So, cue options for ending:

Depending on how much of a fleet you've amassed you get the choice to destroy reapers, control reapers, or bring everyone together in a synthesis. Further, depending on how much of a fleet you've got you can do the above scenarios with the follwing options - destroy earth (few assets) leave earth in a pretty shit state (medium assets) or save the majority of it (lots of assets). However, in all scenarios, your Shepard is dead. Unless you have 5K+ of war assets, which includes the modifier from multiplayer, and can't be achieved without it. And then, no matter what you do, the Normany tries to outrun the Mass Relay explosions, and gets stranded somewhere. With the crew on it that are magically teleported back from the final battle. I pity Ashley having to shag Joker or James, tbh.

Honestly, I could not see how Bioware didn't put in one single fucking happy ending. Where you're actually able to ship off with your crew, settle down with your love interest, and throw back a few drinks with Garrus. Yes the galaxy is a bit fucked, but honestly, was it too much to save it without the goddamn crucible blowing you and everyone you've ever loved away? It seems far too cruel to invest that much time (three games totally something in the region of 90hours of gameplay) only to see everything ripped away. Bioware missed a trick here, and a big one. Players deserved more, if they worked for it, imo. Oh, and the sentient AI was an interesting touch, however, you can see that one coming the second that they start discussing 'the cycle' and someone observes that the Reapers may not be controlling the cycle.

Now, the love for Bioware: almost everything I did in the previous games felt like it would have a repercussion throughout the major storyline. At least, I could see where it would matter if I'd imported a save game (lost my ME2 ones recently). Some of the stuff they walked me through was staggering in scope, and frankly, the journey to the ending beat the ending hands down. You felt a real sense of connection to the game, a real accomplishment for achieving things, and a real sadness for watching old friends come and go. Mordin's death especially tugged at a few heartstrings, as did Tali's suicide (which would have been avoided had I pulled in a savegame where she and Legion got along). This was Bioware at it's staggering best, and I will remember the playthrough fondly (up until the last 20mins, obviously). I was a bit annoyed I couldn't keep Miranda on the Normandy, but aside form that most things really made sense from a canonical perspective. So well played Bioware.

I also felt the combat was good. It felt more fluid, and more relaxed than other games, but with the same penalties (if you fuck up your cover you're pretty dead instantly). It does bring a few things in from Call of Duty, yes, but those were mostly good enhancements. That said, I do not really play the ME games for the RPG aspect, it's more a mix of the storyline and combat, and as such I'm quite glad that, as in ME2, the RPG element is just that, an element. It is not the be-all and end-all, and it's a formula that I maintain works for the ME series. Had a few issues with rolling around corners into oncoming fire rather unexpectedly, but mostly, it worked. I enjoyed playing the game side of things. Aside from Banshees. Those things are fucking brutal. Oh, and cluster grenades are OP as shit

All in all, Bioware wrapped things up really well. The game itself is exceptional, and the storyline is, for the most part, breathtaking and clever. It just seems that, at the end of the day, Bioware had one ending. They tweaked it a bit for various semi-endings, but at the end of the day, you are controlling the journey. Bioware is controlling the end. And it is not the most satisfying experience ever as a result of that.

That said, still an outstanding game, and the ending(s) should not detract from from the previous 20-30hours you put in. Think back, and you'll love it.

[Libains]

No replies? What on earth...

Also:


Terrible endings or not, the Mass Effect 3 community does appear to be doing something pretty cool: http://retakemasseff...ect-childs-play

Basically, they have attached a petition to a sponsorship page for a charity called Child's Play (which donates video games & consoles to children's hospitals etc to make their stay more enjoyable), and in an attempt to make themselves look more sincere than a bunch of warbling idiots on forum threads (and achieving said appearance, imo), are petitioning Bioware through donating to charity. Simple, but effective, and even if no endings are changed, then there's a lot of good coming out of this.

(Oh, and they've raised $10k in 24hours)

[Ion Cannon!]

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